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I added some links to my post ^^
All of those are in the 38mm range, which is a common modern dress watch size. Vintage is more typically 34-36mm. You don’t get too many modern mechanical watches going for that size now (unfortunately).
In terms of modern second hand stuff, I think the main thing to look out for is condition. Has it been taken care of. A Junghans Max Bill hand wound could be worth looking out for.
With vintage, buy the seller. It can be a minefield, especially on eBay - you need to really know what you’re looking at, what looks correct and what the red flags are. I’d buy from someone reputable like Black Bough for a first vintage watch.
Regal
starfish&coffee
Thanks. There's tons of them on the second hand markets so clearly I am not alone in thinking of them as beginner's dress watch.
So Seiko Presage might be my best bet for a dress watch at a fair second hand price? I don't have a particular budget, but I generally enjoy knowing that I've bought something at a good value, try to hit the sweet spot just before the price/ incremental gains curve starts getting steep.
EDIT: Thanks for links. Will keep an eye out for those. Will be more mindful of size from now on – great advice for a noob :-)