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  • Human rights aren't as sacred and protected as you think. Even if they should be :)

    I agree with you, I don't think they are anywhere near as sacred or protected as they should be, there are examples of that everywhere. However.

    Freedom of thought is a human right, a lady is in court next month for "thought-praying within a safe space" in Birmingham.

    I'm pretty sure you're talking about this:
    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/isabel-vaughan-spruce-45-charged-25794626

    Said lady is the director of March for Life UK, a pro life organisation. She knowingly broke an exclusion zone outside said Birmingham abortion clinic which had - quite rightly - been put in place to protect the people working there and the users of the service, who have every right to a safe abortion without getting hassled by god botherers.

    So it's not a great example, unless you mean that access to safe abortion services is a human right, in which case you're quite right.

  • I am talking about that yes. And I fully support access to abortion. Thats as far as ill comment on abortion.

    I dont agree any safe space is needed, its already illegal to be abusive. Its a way of policing that without having to be present. Its a fob off not a support, imo.

    I will never support a thought police in any guise. Who made what thoughts doesnt matter.

    Now that weve cleared up my ignorance on human rights (a humble pie dont wory) can we get back to how terribly the police has handled this? Because they have.
    Literally just heard the tates are being held for 30 more days. Country doesnt matter under UN law, does it?
    That officer should be alive and jailed was always my point, police failings prevented that.

  • Now that weve cleared up my ignorance on human rights (a humble pie dont wory) can we get back to how terribly the police has handled this?

    Why should anybody give you that consideration, when most of your ignorant rant was attacking people here in the worst of bad faith, ascribing the worst motives you could think of to their comments? I didn't see people taking the positions you accused them of, I saw people talking about basic legal principles and also moral ones. The undeniable fact that the police often forget those principles when dealing with (and protecting) their own is not an argument for the rest of us asking for those principles to be broken when we don't like the defendant. That's what I saw people saying.

    You rode in on your high horse. The fact that this made your face-first fall into the horse shit all the more embarrassing is your fault

    "Humble pie, don't worry. But I'm so humble that I want you all to forget how embarrassed I am or that I did anything embarrassing, immediately."

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