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  • Your friends in NZ seem like fuckwits.
    I was in the long lockdowns in Auckland, and while they were pretty tough they have been shown to have reduced the deaths quite a lot.

  • One of the people couldnt leave to see his dying father and the other couldn’t leave because of the long prolonged lockdowns to work.

    I think it’s easy to look from abroad but NZ is a tiny island but that imo isn’t comparable to the UK and from what they both said and none are anti vax. They felt she’s lied (anything thats not the government isn’t true was one I mind) and kept it going a lot longer than she should have especially when zero covid was hard to stop forever. Apparently the full thing was very authoritarian.

  • I don't want to belittle your friends experiences, but those measures stopped a lot of people from dying. The govt decisions were supported by legit public health officials and backed by proper research.
    They provided a lot of money to private businesses to support them, and overall comparatively NZ businesses did much better than most places globally.
    Also the whole 'tiny island' thing is kind of grating to me as a new Zealander. It's 10% bigger in land size than the UK.

  • NZ is a tiny island

    New Zealand is 10% bigger than the UK.

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