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Looks like a lot will be permissive access

https://twitter.com/guyshrubsole/status/1616142849375870976

Wow.

Easy mistake though, who hasn’t inadvertently forgotten to pay £3.5M of tax, there but for the grace of his etc

Looks promising, just needs people to respect the land.

It's hard to know. I don't think I've paid £3.5M of tax. Maybe I forgot?

Much easier to read on his blog:

Nadhim Zahawi – the whole story

See, really easy to do

Promising, that a load of ludicrously rich landowners have found a way to screw even more money out of the public purse?

a load of ludicrously rich landowners have found a way to screw even more money out of the public purse

I missed that bit - what are the payments?

My friends in NZ wouldn’t say the same about her that’s for sure.

Her handling of covid was an utter disaster and she’s jumped now because it looks like labour are gonna lose the next election.

It’s bonkers how abroad she’s seen as been fantastic.

Most people I know here in NZ think she’s done a great job and are gutted she’s quit.
As for the Covid ‘disaster’, I don’t know where that comes from? Zero cases after the first short lockdown then life back to relative normality. While the rest of the world cancelled Christmas’s we went on road trips. It was awkward how normal our lives were looking at how fucked everywhere else was.
Unfortunately there are plenty of very vocal antivaxers and conspiracy theorists here who managed to somehow convince people that we had it bad.

The DNPA has confirmed that the deal for permissive access to camp includes payments to the (unknown number of) landowners involved in the deal.

Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CnmVppQK4Il/

I don’t know her or her politics. Just what I saw on the news. She sounds like an incredible leader.

I thought NZ was one of the better handled Covid countries, no?

Oz was dumb, UK was dumb and other places like Italy were hit hard sooner so have more reason to have made mistakes in handling.

Our family in [fairly rural] NZ had a near undisturbed life through COVID, other than a lack of foreign visitors. We were jealous.

And NZ’s death rate was about 6 times lower than the UK’s.

Do you know why your friends think it was handled so badly? Lots of variables, obviously, but statistically it looks like it was amongst the most successful developed countries in the world at limiting deaths.

Innocent until proven guilty isn't a human right, its legal jargon for "well we all make mistakes, got to be fair don't you know" its the same as "watch xx allegedly behead someone" when you clearly see the beheading and the person doing it. Its not to protect the individual but the institution.
Your human rights however do protect you in that you must have a fair trial.
Would you consider Freedom a human right, how do the Police punish us?

Drop that idealist wishy washy bulllshit.
Public perception > Public interaction.

It is true that if you are arrested holding a gun covered in blood over a dead body you will be tried the same as if you were actually seen to shoot the person, that is "innocent until proven guilty" however, in my second scenario, would you be released pending investigation?
We both agree the police had proof of CP, they had to grade it to say how 'bad' a paed he was. He had multiple arrests for the same thing too. They released him, he was found dead, the wrong local cops went to find him, its easier for him to die than deal with a high profile case like this and then try and protect him in prison.
When you get arrested and are waiting (held in a cell) to be processed at a station, if you have a history of self harm, suicidal thoughts or even threaten suicide you will have an officer stood at your open door the whole time.
This guy was supposed to have welfare checks, he didnt. The wrong precinct(?) found him.

Keep apologising for the Farce.

Heres some legislation for you too. I used the C4 program to highlight my point on police perception over reality.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2011/9/notes/divison/4/1?view=plain

'Pre-charge detention can only be authorised where there is insufficient evidence to charge a person and the "custody officer has reasonable grounds for believing that his detention without being charged is necessary to secure or preserve evidence relating to an offence for which he is under arrest or obtain such...'

Did they know they had all the evidence they possibly could?
Laws are frequently bent, legally, when they can be. This time though, everything was done by the book?

Finally, approximately 2% of the met police force are now under investigation for "abuse". The way things look its more likely sexual abuse and possibly paedophilia.
18% of UK prisoners are held over sexual abuse with 1/8th of those being paedophiles. Just over 2%
Maybe just 2% of the population in general are paeds, but that means its OK for the police too, its just life....

Striking.

Her handling of covid was an utter disaster

Where on earth did you form this opinion? NZ had the best covid response of pretty much anywhere!

I know my sister in-law was pissed off about it because she couldn’t get to NZ to visit her elderly mum who lived there alone so she went a good couple of years without seeing her just after her husband had passed. I can’t remember the details, could people leave NZ at that time?? I dunno, just saying I know she was critical of it as a kiwi.

The only people that seem to think Arden did a bad job with covid are anti-lockdown freaks

Sure, I get that there are pockets of people extremely paissed off at the pandemic and response but AFAIK New Zealanders poll as being overall quite satisfied with the pandemic response.

I mean, the UK had a death rate x4 that of NZ. And it did that by making difficult decisions quickly. They also avoided handing billions to their mates too. As for the prices they paid for PPE and testing...a fraction of what the UK negotiated even when adjusted for population.

When I first landed in Auckland en route to Queenstown, almost the very first person I saw at the airport was Jacinda Ardern walking with one solitary security guard. #coolstorybro

Innocent until proven guilty isn't a human right

The what now?

It is, it's an international human right under Article 11 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

the UK had a death rate x4 that of NZ

It’s more like 6 I think - 300 vs 50.

Innocent until proven guilty isn't a human right.

Fuck sake it is actually article 11 of the UN charter of human rights

“Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.”

I’m glad you have studied law via C4 but one your link doesn’t work two you are confusing detention under PACE for the interview with remanding in custody post charge.

We both agree the police had proof of CP

I presume you mean probable cause which is not a term in Uk law enforcement. To arrest you need to have a person’s involvement or suspected involvement or attempted involvement in the commission of a criminal offence. (As well as necessity). This is a far lower threshold than the decision to charge which is not a police decision in this case. Suspicion is also not evidence.
As detailed above downloading , and then viewing, devices takes months , it is necessary to ensure the correct charge, if any, is laid, that all offences are investigated, to ensure the totality of offending is presented as this may impact sentencing and to identify and safeguard any victims .

How do you know he expressed any suicidal thoughts. The wrong precinct thing is just cobblers, he lived in a different force area, that’s quite normal with the Met.

This

Wow, who would have thought that the governments 'levelling up' scheme would more see the bulk of the money go to tory councils and not the most deprived