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Have you tried these? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325434379754?var=514460984714
Lot of good reviews from folks who've used them.
Have you tried these? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325434379754?var=514460984714
Lot of good reviews from folks who've used them.
I'm using Castelli Estremo at the moment, and while they're probably the warmest gloves I've had, I've still had a few days where I was in actual pain even with silk liners. Especially if they've gotten wet too.
Plus the velcro cuffs are an utter pain in the ass!