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  • Mantis case manual says max module depth is 50mm top row, 61mm bottom row.

    Cheers

  • Riddle me this.

    Loquelic Iteritas has no trigger input. Does it mean that its audio out has to go into a VCA then trigger into envelope into cv control of VCA?

    I've currently got it working with Pam's into Veils then a channel out from Veils into the Sync input on Loquelic Iteritas.

    The manual says this about the Sync input:

    Sync

    Sync will reset the state of the oscillators on a rising edge. Used for syncmodulation.

    Any thoughts?

    Edit: assume it's something like this

    Trigger > env > VCA CV in
    Audio out from Loquelic into VCA audio in. VCA out
    To mixer!

  • Yeah, it’s as you suggest. An oscillator module on its own will usually not include a filter or VCA stage, or a trigger input. It will just output the oscillator tone constantly (at a pitch controlled by an incoming pitch CV signal), for you to route through a filter and then a VCA (in a typical subtractive synth arrangement). The VCA would normally be controlled (opened/shut) by an envelope or slope signal from an envelope generator. That envelope generator is conventionally triggered by the trigger/gate signal that equates to “note on”.

    This is for a very conventional subtractive synth btw. You have pitch CV and note trigger gate coming from the sequencer. Pitch CV goes to the oscillator, trigger/gate goes to the VCA and possibly also to the filter cutoff (you might also have a different EG for the filter).

    Does that make sense?

    The sync input resets the phase of the oscillator waveform to zero when the sync signal is high. The purpose of this is usually to have two oscillators at different pitches (frequencies), and you sync one to the other so that the waveform of the synced oscillator resets at a different point in the wave cycle to where it normally would - it cuts the wave cycle short. The result is that classic “tearing”/“screaming” oscillator sync sound. NB: the sync oscillator signal should (IIRC) be a higher frequency than the oscillator that you are syncing otherwise you don’t really get the effect.

  • Yes! Thanks very much. I've got it working OK. The only thing I can't suss out is what to do with the o/a/x2.

    It will need a clock input so I could use Pam's. Then use it to attenuate what? The Envelope generated by Pip Slope?

    Quick jam with it anyway. I need more cables, I had to unpatch a bunch of stuff!

    https://youtu.be/Dmzj11yIjKk

  • Jam sounding fun.

    O/A/x2 is one of those utility modules that isn’t that exciting by itself but can come in really handy. It has two main functions, the offset and the attenuverter (i.e. attenuation through to inverting as you go past zero). It doesn’t take a clock signal, it’s designed to process CV.

    Offsetting can be useful to adjust the base point of the range a control signal is operating in. Attenuation can be used to narrow that range. For example, if you have a CV sequence that is looping, such as an LFO, controlling a filter cutoff frequency, you might want to adjust that CV so that it doesn’t completely close and completely open the filter. By attenuating it you can make it go from 0% open to 50% open instead of 0 to 100. Then by offsetting it in a positive direction you can make it operate in the region of 30% to 80%.

    There’s loads of other stuff of course (such as transposing / modifying melodic pitch sequences). It’s one of those modular building blocks that has lots of potential uses.

  • Yes! Thanks. I just need a use case. Maybe filter cutoff would be a good idea

  • Yeah! The Space was the first nice pedal I ever owned.

  • Anyone here use Reaper? I'm having a bear of a time and everything I'm finding on Google assume I know A LOT more about this than I do.

    • I want playback to start in Reaper when I press play on my MPC (solved)
    • I want Reaper to follow whatever BPM setting I have on the MPC (not possible)
    • I want arm recording, but have Reaper wait for a start signal from my MPC (solved)

    I'm using an MPC 1000 and a Motu Ultralite Mk4

  • Not sure about Reaper but you might need to have midi clock sync as well as command sync or clock only?

  • I editted the first post - I somehow broke all of it and Reaper no longer launches from my MPC.

    Reaper is like the fucking Linux of DAWs. I can do all this in Ableton just fine, but I'm totally lost in Reaper.

  • I downloaded it during lockdown, played for an hour and never opened it again. I'm already split between Ableton and Logic so another DAW would have to be amazing to get me using it.

  • I'm stuck with Reaper sadly as I don't have the coinage to buy Ableton.

  • Similar, downloaded it and fiddled for a bit but I am too invested in Reason.

  • Apparently one way to do it is use a learn function under the Actions menu, but while I've found where to do that, it's not recognizing any inputs from my MPC that would add a new mapping so it looks like my MPC isn't sending any midi signal despite somehow triggering playback...

    Will report back shortly.

  • Cakewalk/LMMS/Garageband viable options to try?

  • I loved ReBirth RB-338 and put quite a bit of time into Reason which I really liked but somehow ended up on Logic and then Ableton came along.

  • Found this video that helped a lot

    Next up is setting up an FX send using pedals. I'd previously figure out how to do it up to recording, at which point I was greeted with a dense drone of feedback.

  • I tried Ableton as well but couldn't get on with it. I started with a hooky copy of reason and ended up buying and upgrading, nothing else seems as logical to me.

    I mentioned above though that I have had more success in a couple of month with my Electribe 2S than all my time faffing with DAWs!!

  • I had the opposite experience - started in Ableton at the end of highschool and faffed around for 8yr having a lot of fun releasing a few-dozen mostly sample-based projects then picked up Hardware about 7yr ago and started from 0 again. I can count on one hand the number of completed tracks I've put out since as most of my time is spent learning workflows and actual synthesis.

  • I bought an octatrack in 2018. Just getting to grips with how it works now!

  • Saw this and thought maybe this thread might be a good spot for it. Love the first comment 🙂

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THM4fUdz8Mc

  • Finally starting to dig a bit deeper into the Virus Ti. Holy hell I can see how this thing got such a sparkling reputation.

  • Standalone it's incredible. It was the software integration that let it down when it was launched.

    And they were so popular it took a while before they were widely available. I sold one thinking I would be able to buy another one cheaper down the line if I missed it. Instead the prices have stayed very steady.

  • Miss mine, was such a deep synth. Wave tables and hypersaw meant sonic mayhem. Now have a syntakt and some of the Roland groove boxes as well as a moog grandmother. That thing is mad. Powerful. Using live is fine, but prefer just free running hardware…

  • "Free running hardware?"

    My setup is pretty sparse right now being just the Virus, an MPC 1000, MD-200, DD-500, and Space. The only things I've found I dislike about the Virus is a lack of being able to change the order of the effects, and there doesn't seem to be a way to pan the VCOs, but otherwise I'm smitten.

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