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• #2
Condor we're still selling 10 speed Campag casettes last summer-might be worth checking with them if they still have them if you havn't already?
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• #3
Cheers, they have got a few but it's pretty slim pickings. Figure I'm gonna have to upgrade at some point and 11-speed gives the options of Shimano cassettes as well.
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• #4
Your left and right levers might look a bit mis-matched, depending on which model 10s you have.
I just checked (we are a Campagnolo Service Centre) and ex-works, 10s cassettes are all still available (see image).
Centaur 10s 12-27 and 14-23 are also still available.
If you want to future proof, you really need to go to 12s.
Shimano 11 will work OK-ish on 12-up cassettes with a Campagnolo 11s lever and mech but 11 up, the CA spacing is very slightly different (the CA cassette is 0.3mm wider than Shimano when 11-up) and the SH cassette tends to be noisy (compound angle that the chain meets the sprockets) and the shift from the 13 to the 12 and 12 to the 11 can be laggy, if that bothers you.
It (the lagginess) is worse of you are thinking to repurpose a 2012 onwards Veloce 10s RD as 11s - it will work because the geometry is the same as 2009-2015 11s but the spring rates are lower in Veloce 10s than in most of the 11s mechs, which increases shift delay.
Assuming your Veloce 10s is PowerShift (post 2012) lever, the lever body you will need is EC-AT400C, if you go down this avenue. You can just swap the hood, clip and brake lever across.
It's generally OK when everything is new but as wear and tear sets in, there's more fettling required to keep the shift sweet. That's the reason (well, a lot of the reason, anyway) that the factory don't recommend hybridising 10 & 11s systems.
As an alternative you could go with a RH Centaur 11 lever body and a Centaur 11 RD plus 11s cassette and chain - the Centaur 11 rear shift is standalone in the Campagnolo universe (different to Athena, Potenza, Chorus, Record, Super Record) so the RD and the RH lever need to be used together.
Poor front shift in terms of chain drop (and the possibility for the chain to jam more easily in the RD if you are using a 10s RD) are additional reasons to avoid hybridising 10 and 11s.
That's aside from the commercial reasons, obviously ...
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• #5
Cheers for such a detailed response! I've already upgraded the rear mech to a Centaur 11s (someone drove into the back of me so I had no choice!). It works fine with a 10s cassette although the service manual says it's for 11s (and a 29t or above sprocket) only. There's an 11s Athena RH shifter on ebay—will this not work with the Centaur mech/cassette?
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• #6
No problem!
My guess would be "not well".
I can't imagine that the CE11 derailleur is indexing perfectly, though, so it might be acceptable ... but I'd strongly doubt it'd be spot on - the amount the derailleur moves vs the amount of cable that the lever pulls in / releases is not correct.
It's difficult to get 10 speed campag cassettes anymore so I'm looking for an 11-speed Campag right hand shifter if anyone's got one. The cheaper end of the spectrum, if possible!
Cheers!