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They say they are worried about minimum service levels on strike days lol

https://twitter.com/PaulMainwood/status/1613463576034906112

Erm, I beg to differ. We as a species have controlled nature so effectively there’s hardly any left.
Now hungry seals have to leave the empty seas in search of food elsewhere, just like cormorants have done. If you fill a still water with oversized and overcrowded fish and you can expect a starving predator to find them sooner or later. And it’s not going to want to move until there’s no food left.

Republicans playing dirty again. Bide and the classified documents. This is clearly a plant

trying to make trumps collection of top secret documents seem normal

Not sure about the plant part but a nice way for the GOP to start the year. Sleepy Joe will be steadily covered in shit for the next two years. Expect Hunter's laptop to hit the news again.

"It’s not like they’re sitting out on the street,” he insisted when a reported asked why he was storing classified material next to a sports car.

Look at this shit. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/12/exxon-climate-change-global-warming-research

The whole "you knew about it and did nothing" thing is going to keep a lot of lawyers busy and wealthy for several decades.

Yarp - a bit like asbestos, there was a period where big manufacturers knew the stuff was deadly but continued to use it in production.

The word on the street is various big European oil giants are facing (many) court days in the state of California.

As in, there's a rumour that there are cases under seal and the affected companies are battening down the hatches.

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Ha! Exactly what I thought of when I posted that

Finally got around to watching the show a few months back, after seeing the films many, many times. Absolute gold.

Clicked on this just after reading another post referencing Mrs Brown's Boys. Was temporarily discombobulated.

Was temporarily discombobulated.

Sorry - my fault...

Dogshit: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/13/dartmoor-estate-landowner-alexander-darwall-court-case-right-to-camp

Not sure if it’s even enforceable really, but still bad news. I assume the judge was in a tricky position because the right was never enshrined in law, but it felt like decades of people doing it might be enough for it to continue to happen (legally).

Especially frustrating as the guy purchased the land recently, knowing full well it was a place people wild camped.

If you adhere to the unwritten rules of wild camping of pitch at dusk, be gone by dawn and leave no trace you would probably be OK.

Just another in a line of backwards steps for England. A tragic demise.

Something for the car thread

Unfortunately it was being used like a massive free camping ground last year. Saw quite a few family groups with massive tents pitched up for the weekend, around the frogmore quarry part of Dartmoor. The little car was full of beer boxes and BBQs.

You can't really blame land owners if that is the case. People seem to think it is too much effort to take their rubbish home as well.

The only land owner of a national park should be the national trust or government.

It's mostly owned by Prince Charles. Or I guess Wills now?
https://whoownsengland.org/2021/03/22/who-owns-dartmoor/

I guess that's indirectly the government, at a stretch.

Yeah.

The shame is that court case is about the interpretation of Acts that apply to Dartmoor as a whole (of which this hedge fund manager only owns 5% or something). So it affects the whole park even if the other landowners are neutral about wild camping.

If I were the campaigners I would be putting pressure on other landowners to come out against this ruling. I don't know whether Darwall's bit is thought to be particularly suitable for camping, though.