• Looking to acquire a new gravel/all road bike in 2023, preferably some higher quality steel (not gas pipe tubing) or titanium. Had a Space Chicken a few years ago, but crashed it. Still missing its quick and nimble geo. Is there any good metal frames out there with similar geo?

  • If you had a Space Chicken & Sram Force build from Planet X, consider that a similarly priced steel bike can be about 20% heavier. Even if the geo matches, not guaranteed you'll feel it as "quick and numble".

    If you go up a price bracket, and get a nice one with ~same spec, then you're looking at up to 1kg difference in frame. My Space Chicken frame in size 50 is 1133g, Standert is 1980g, the Ritte Satyr around 2200g.

  • Fair point. The SC was a custom built frameset with a GRX group and quite nice Mavic wheels, so probably quite light. I’m riding on a CFR696 based build these days, which feels sluggish compared to the SC, even though it can’t weigh that much more.

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