The fall of the Tory party

They probably hand-picked that guy and even he looked like he wanted to slap old Rishi. Painful to watch.

Amazing

“Do you have a … er … do you work in a business?”

No I’m homeless

It wasn't great was it. TBH I expected more of car crash. But guess I'm used to Borris Johnson levels of car crash on public appearances

Bloke seemed abnormally accommodating, IMHO. I worked at a drop in for 10 years and I never once met anyone who said anything remotely close to “when the finance is doing well, we all do well”. Almost like he’d bought into trickle down economics 🤔

What are people complaining about? Do they want him to be a good PM now so the tories stay in power?

The relationship between the rightwing press and the Tory party tightens:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/24/rishi-sunak-hires-journalist-james-forsyth-as-political-secretary

Note: Allegra Stratton visibly returns to the heart of the Tory party.

Bloke seemed abnormally accommodating

I think that’s because he actually brought up the subject (because he had previously worked in finance himself). As ever the viral clip has had the context removed.

Dear lord, 30p Lee is so thick.
Complains that what he is watching today on TV wouldn't be allowed on TV today.
https://twitter.com/LeeAndersonMP_/status/1607492071136305152?t=LY7Z0U8TthSa14ooPk8qKQ&s=19

Absolute thundering bellend (who would doubtless argue, inaccurately, about whether bellend should be hyphenated) who bizarrely was a Labour councillor until 2018

Worth a read:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/28/rishi-sunak-boris-johnson-liz-truss-britain-labour

And, extraordinarily, he was voted backbencher of the year.

By his own party so he ‘won’ against some stiff competition (Gullis and Bridgen must be gutted)

Fun speculation on the permanent demise of the Tories based off Millenials not becoming more right wing as they age, and letting everybody go to university.

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1608746369505976323

John B-M is always good, isn't he.

For me this has to be a story about home ownership / generational wealth distribution. Owning your own place and "enjoying" a few years of house price inflation turns you into a Tory. Has informed all of the blue team's housing policies since Thatcher.

Is that necessarily the case though? It's always a movement relative to the mean - so if society gets more progressive due to young people having those views, the effect (relative shift to the right as age increases) would be visible even if views just didn't change....

See what you are saying. But then again the political parties are targeting certain age groups so it's not just about "views" it's the whole economic offering.

Probably very different in the UK to the US. Feels like the "centre ground" in the US hasn't moved, just the parties have moved away from it, whereas in the UK the centre ground has drifted but the parties are less polarised?

I’d put corporate structures in there too. A lot of people work in those organisations that are right wing AF. They use marketing to appear inclusive or progressive, but those structures are anything but left wing.
A lot of people find themselves in this environment in their 30s and they foster a more right-wing mindset. I know I was swayed to an extent when I was chasing corporate bonuses.
I think it goes hand in hand with homeownership.

I wonder how well developed the political marketing is on the nu socials. Meta is a gift for spinners but do they have the same access to Snap or TT?

All that Dimes Sq vibe shift stuff seems to be a reaction against hive mind Sanders love.. I wonder if we will see something similar in the UK. A move away from mids by the sauce lords.

For me this has to be a story about home ownership / generational wealth distribution. Owning your own place and "enjoying" a few years of house price inflation turns you into a Tory. Has informed all of the blue team's housing policies since Thatcher.

except that doesn’t seem to be working any more.

Yep that’s the point I was making

i think having a mortgage was a seen in the US as crucial in the 1950s as a means of pacifying a population who also took part in the largest strikes in US history at the time and who had proved they were prepared to fight alongside communist, and indeed alongside POCs, for what they believed. Since then, states have found similar ways to tie down other generations to debt obligations, eg student loans, that contributes to good/normative behaviour. It is no surprise to me that it is children, who aren’t burdened by huge debts, who have been increasingly making the most noise to upset the status quo. i recently suggested to a group of my friends (in their 30s) that they were likely to shift to the right or centre as they edged towards 40. They laughed at me but ALL of them have since let slip various ways in which they have allowed for rightist ideas to inform their thinking or actions. Anecdotal evidence, of course.

in a doomed effort to attempt to distil what this all means to me, for example:

"f**k the police" has been a left wing sentiment against the foot soldiers of the ruling class.

the same slogan now has traction in the alt / new / far / right who see the establishment as a precursor to communism / collectivism / central planning.

it's a hard one to figure out and the questions that I ask myself and others to attempt to make sense of this are:

where do you stand on personal freedom?

and

where do you stand on collective responsibility?

(apologies - fred drift from tory party)

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