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  • Sounds like ham-fisted censorship

  • In the interests of intersectionality, is there a single example of a trans man fully embracing toxic masculinity and going full gammon?

  • just finished a rather arduous book on the poet Lorca which spent much of the final pages detailing the rise of the falangists in spain. I couldn’t help see the parallels. what came home strong was that it was precisely middle class and of an age conservatives - that era’s gammons- that transformed into the fascists in the 30s, motivated around defending royalty, nuisance unions, homophobia, and racialised patriotism.

  • Wonderful new from Scotland about the gender recognition reform bill followed by the grim predictability that this awful Tory government are threatening to block it. Also great news from Spain where a similar bill has been passed.

  • is there a single example of a trans man fully embracing toxic masculinity and going full gammon?

    I'd be amazed if there weren;t at least one or two trans men who have fully embraced the "I shouldnt have been allowed to do what I did" grift. Same for trans women.

    Similarly to the various people of colour who grift on a "there is no racism in the USA or UK" message and the "I used to be a Muslim which is why I can tell you Islam is bad" grift.

    If there is money to be made, people will do it.

  • There are few parts of the internet more toxic than the anti-trans parts of the internet.

  • Just shows whatever sci-fi types can come up with, nature has already come up with weirder shit.

  • Haven’t seen it but my suspicion is that “The Regretters” is a bit like this. I remember some controversy involving this and the BBC a few years ago.

    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1590252/

  • Realised after I posted that that I was being insensitive to people who transitioned and changed their minds. That wasn't my intention. I was thinking more of people who might pretend to regret it to make money out of the anti trans mob.

  • Wonderful new from Scotland about the gender recognition reform bill followed by the grim predictability that this awful Tory government are threatening to block it.

    It's so grim isn't it, this Government really does try to kill every single thing that's good.

    FWIW, they are talking about checking that the GRA is compatible with the Equality Act. It almost certainly will be, because the lawyers at Holyrood aren't - unlike the Tories - cretins (I'm friends with two of them). So I suspect this is all talk.

  • Hmmmm.. the recent supreme court judgement on the advisory referendum rather suggests they are cretins. The Lord Advocate's submission was an embarrassment to the legal profession.
    The Scottish GR legislation seems to me to have been badly drafted in a strictly legal sense in terms of the Scotland Act and the Equalities Act. For SNP MSPs to vote against their own legislation is a novel experience. The rush to get this bill through before Ms Forbes comes back from her maternity leave is telling.

    Edit to add. this seems to me to be a reasonable summary legally..
    https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2022/12/21/michael-foran-sex-gender-and-the-scotland-act/

  • Hmmmm.. the recent supreme court judgement on the advisory referendum rather suggests they are cretins.

    It really doesn't - they always knew they were going to lose, but that wasn't the point.

    For SNP MSPs to vote against their own legislation is a novel experience.

    I don't think this has anything to do with the law, but it has everything to do with some of them being nasty transphobes.

    I'm not a lawyer so I can't make any judgement on how well it was drafted. Are you?

  • What was the point of the supreme court action in the opinion of your learned friends? I assume they're civil servants therefore subject to the civil service code. For a civil servant to propose ultra vires legislation seems iffy to say the least. The supreme court case cost the taxpayer £250k. I'm sure lessons will be learnt.

    The GR bill is legislation so it has everything to do with the law. The possibility of this bill even being subject to a section 35 order rather suggests that it was badly drafted. Your learned friends have clearly fucked up again.

  • Moving away from contention, this is snark of the highest order..

    https://on.ft.com/3jjTvui

  • What was the point of the supreme court action in the opinion of your learned friends?

    Probably something similar to the commentary from every single political pundit.

    1. It establishes that there is no mechanism for Scottish independence without Westminster approval
    2. It kicks the can down the road giving NS some breathing room, while keeping the SNP relevant at a time when there is a risk some voters may shift to Labour to remove the Tories.
  • Yea, I would have said it hit the targets it was designed to so do. Good use of the time and money.

  • Edit to add. this seems to me to be a reasonable summary legally..

    https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2022/12/­21/michael-foran-sex-gender-and-the-scot­land-act/

    Thanks. This is interesting.

  • My Mum lives about 2mins from this, and apparently this is "fairly normal for Cornwall"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-64082342

  • Aphex Twin's Christmas party?

  • Lots of things are 'normal' in Cornwall

  • I assume they're civil servants therefore subject to the civil service code. For a civil servant to propose ultra vires legislation seems iffy to say the least.

    They didn't propose it of course, but the line between the civil service and government in Scotland is famously and perhaps inappropriately thin - see recent media coverage, plus the surprisingly high number of times my friend (singular as the other one hasn't been working on this case) has been on Teams calls with the First Minister(!). But they did effectively lead the legal stuff from what I can tell.

    With all due respect I'm going to hold off on passing on your learned opinion until you confirm how you're qualified to have it. And even then I don't think he'd thank me for such feedback at Christmas. He is, as you'd expect, a pretty experienced lawyer but it's fair to say he didn't exactly enjoy the process...

  • Guys just tell each other how long your dicks are

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