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  • I do hope they bring them back but my experience of TGV over the last few years has been pretty bad. Could just be the Eastern route into Paris I suppose.

  • It's going back a few years now (2010), but I took my bike in a bag on the TGV from Lille to Valence TGV to do the Marmotte and I found it hassle-free and sparsely populated. I was hoping to do a fair bit of French rail travel next year including going from Paris to Lyon and back, so I guess I'll find out more. Can't fault the time of just over two hours and cheaper than a single from London to Brighton, though.

  • For me to get to Lyon my choices are:

    1, Car - 5 1/2 hours
    2, Train - 6 1/2 hours
    3, Flight - Comedy flight options include Luxembourg to Porto to Lyon, but still only 3 1/5 hours (plus getting into the airport, out of it, and into Lyon obviously)

    I guess it's just the east being complicated in terms of connections (slow trains or via paris). The fact that it's complicated to take an assembled bike on a long trip by train isn't great either. But... for most people, it's good enough if they can improve the service a bit.

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