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  • Shame the trains are overcrowded and dirty on popular routes, not to mention a lot of the high speed trains are actually slow (also bike transport is a shit show). I can drive to Lyon faster than I can get there by train on this side of France. They cancelled all the night trains over the last decade or so which were really cost effective ways to get across the country for people not to mention proper memory making travel (I did it a couple of times as a kid and have really good memories of it).

    It's a noble goal, but in reality, unless they invest a bit more in the infrastructure, it's not going to work for long before people get the shits with it.

  • Have to say my experience of French trains was entirely positive when I last went and that included an overnight sleeper from Paris to Latour de Carol. There are still a fair few Intercites de Nuits and they are apparently bringing more back.

    I'm going back next year and taking some more popular routes with a bike, so I may well revise that opinion. :D

  • Last time I got a French/Italian sleeper it had a cute little holder next to the bed with two glasses, but also a space for a bottle of wine, which could be bought from a little stall on the platform. Is this still the case?

  • I do hope they bring them back but my experience of TGV over the last few years has been pretty bad. Could just be the Eastern route into Paris I suppose.

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