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  • In private? - people talk about this openly and I’d happily, publicly protest against the monarchy and preachy sycophants who suck up to them.
    This is an Internet forum and that’s what people do on them. It’s a good place to vent and get others opinions.
    Just like how much most average people can see the double standards of trump, putin , david beckham and family, members of parliament etc and be able to discuss them without going down the pub like natives in the UK do...
    You don’t have to read it

  • As with every problem on the entire earth, most people don't give a shit and only people who care deeply bother to complain

  • I'm puzzled too. Particularly about Meghan and Harry. Easily ignored...

    You'd think they were trying to steal Christmas with all the vitriol that is spilled.

  • In private?

    As opposed to a formal protest in the streets, is what I meant.

    I’d happily, publicly protest against the monarchy

    But you don't, do you?

    Anywhooo, I didn't mean to stir up the pot, and I wasn't suggesting youse should stop whatever you want to do/are doing in here

  • It's just chat. Like being in a virtual pub. Royalty is something most Brits have an opinion on, but mostly (ime) not a massively extreme opinion. The monarchy is an ever-present fact of UK life, but has little everyday impact - queen's death and netflix/tabloid hoo-ha apart. They are not going anywhere anytime soon even if thousands took to the streets.

  • How would you know what i do or don't do or what i have done / haven't done with regards to protest or speaking out against what i feel is important?
    Or are you saying "you" as lumping every English/ Welsh, Scottish etc British person together?
    You'll find the "natives" in the UK are now quite a diverse bunch of people with very different views on things and how to seek change.
    Where are you from? Where are you FROM?? (being sarcastic with this last bit as this is a British trait apparently

  • In medieval times, one or other side would have poisoned the rivals or had a small war or something. Nowadays, the chosen weapons are Netflix and Mail Online…

    Speaking as a peasant who would have in the past probably died impaled on a spikey thing in such wars I see this as a good thing

  • Medieval wars weren't generally too bad for the peasantry - it was mostly the knights who had to do the fighting. I mean, they weren't too good either, but they weren't usually used as mass cannon fodder like they did in the nice civilised 20th century.

  • What could be the reason that the royal household is exempt from the Equalities Act?

  • Apart from the fact that they'd really prefer to not be subject to any law, I would guess that a lot of it would stem from how they get their staff, you have to come from the right family to be a lady in waiting (or what ever it's called now). Don't want to waste time interviewing plebs.

  • Mine was phrased as a question, I didn't want to lambaste you for writing in here.

    Like I said I just want to understand what it's like living in a country with an (old and useless) institution as a monarchy, coming from a place where the only place you can read of kings and queens is in the history books, or in novels

  • They are not going anywhere anytime soon even if thousands took to the streets

    This is an interesting take. Why do you think so? I am making a silly comparison, but no-one would have thought that despite the strong foothold that the Church has in Spain, same sex marriages would have ever been a thing.
    I would think that if something similar (i.e: the reversal of long standing institutions/dogmas) were to happen in the UK, it will be in this day and age

  • Firstly, because the royals are (broadly) still reasonably popular - see jubilees, funeral and forthcoming coronation for examples. Even a wrong'un like Nonce Andrew barely changes that.
    And secondly, because they are so embedded in the fabric of the country and (generalising) Brits like pomp, ceremony and things-being-as-they-should-be. The idea of changing money, stamps, national anthem, post boxes, the church, the armed forces, parliament etc, etc to strip away the monarchy would freak out most of the country.

  • Firstly, because the royals are (broadly) still reasonably popular

    Polling shows a huge age split on this. It ranges from about 50% approval for existence of the monarchy for younguns up to about 85% approval for the olduns.

    Either way, its wrong to say that the existence of the monarchy is unpopular in the UK. What is true, is that their popularity is declining.

  • I said they are still popular!

  • I know, I was supporting your point with some numbers.

  • Lads, lads, lads....

  • I think that they would be guaranteed to breach the Equality Act in multiple ways which would be embarrassing so best just to be exempt from it

  • Probably only slightly less so when Philip died...

  • I get the feeling that while Philip didn’t have any fucks to give in public, he was far from an outlier

  • I am making a silly comparison...

    A less silly comparison might be to imagine Spain no longer being Catholic.

    Despite 2,000 years of demonstrable greed, hypocrisy, intolerance, homophobia, misogyny, sexual perversion and corruption etc etc etc.

    And yet...

  • Probably very true. He just had no public filter!

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  • I'm not calling you a troll but your question(s) are troll-y. You know the answer - which the monarchy themselves repeat all the time - which is that it is purely symbolic. Symbols are mutable and differ from person to person, community to community. A symbol of British values / a symbol of colonialism. Symbol of British power / symbol of a poisonous repressive class system. They give people a sense of self and place or make them feel like perpetual outsiders in their own country. As Lizzy and Phil the Greek were around from WWI give or take the last 100 year of cultural history is up for projection onto the crown

  • You might think that they are troll-y, but that's not the case. Let me reiterate:

    I grew up in a country where monarchies are a thing of the past, so I can't really conceive how, in the 21st century, they could still be a thing. The way I see it (from the outside, which is an important factor to highlight) is like a candid camera gone too long, as a bubble waiting to burst.
    I honestly can't conceive what it's like having kings, queens, dukes and all that faff, for me it's just an anachronistic joke

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