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  • How long out in rain?
    What temps?
    How long between uses? Can you dry the jacket?

    Waterproof isn't breathable so you don't really want it all the time.

  • I'll be using it for general rides where it could rain white I'm out on the bike... and temp wise between 0-15 maybe... needs to have room for layers underneath. I can only ride at the weekend so there will be ample drying time.

  • temp wise between 0-15 maybe

    For that range I would have said Gabba/Perfetto with 1 or 2 baselayer. It's not waterproof but when you got soaked it was still warm. Unfortunately that doesn't work anymore since they
    switched to that Gore infinium.

  • 0-15C is a big range. No single jacket will cover that.

    0-10C
    I always have a real rain jacket, could be a light one but a real one. Underneath a merino blend baselayer and then a fleece midlayer, with a full zip to vent, the fleece thickness depends on the average temp expected, could also be polartec alpha. You could also try a softshell, I had a quecha one that was brilliant, then if you're out for not long this will keep you warm if went. Insulated jackets get used from around 0C for me.
    Also a face buff, covering your face adds a.lot.of warmth.

  • I tried the Rapha Brevet jacket recently and sent it back: far too short at the back. Some of their own photos show it:
    https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/shop/mens-brevet-gore-tex-rain-jacket/product/BAA01XXDPW
    It's also intended as a packable jacket so not very substantial.

    I replaced it with the Rapha Classic winter jacket, a much better shape for me, warmer, but not as packable. Probably too warm for much above 10 degrees if you are going at any pace. But it's a great jacket and, so far, properly waterproof. Fabric is very prone to picking up marks though so would get a darker colour.

    If you want something for "general rides where it could rain" would jerseys + packable rain jacket not be better? Shakedry in the back pocket?

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