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  • What's so frustrating is the whole thing is so utterly undefinable, because bar not being an EU member, there is no concensus on what our relationship should look like. A Swiss deal is problematic because the EU doesn't like it (and probably wouldn't give us), and it goes back to the rule-taker issue that being a non-member entails.

    From a strategy pov I'd guess Starmer's thought process is something along the lines of;

    1. Someone in no11 has briefed on the possibility of a Swiss style deal, so get the shit rags to slag this government off and give me a bit of non-negative coverage.
    2. Non-Tories will probably see the cynicism behind this chat / understand why I don't want to go there.
    3. You force this government to acknowledge that freedom of movement is a positive thjng and start building a news cycle and discourse around the topic.

    Given recent polling I think he might be being over cautious. Or even worse be missing public sentiment on this. But I can absolutely see why you'd leave the problem to the current government to navigate.

  • Given recent polling I think he might be being over cautious.

    I reluctantly agree. I think he's making the same mistake that Corbyn made in 2017 when he put hard brexit in the manifesto - making himself a hostage to fortune later by ruling sensible things out now. And Starmer has been quite good at NOT doing that on many other culture war issues - trans rights, for e.g., or the strikes, or immigration - that it feels like Brexit is the odd one out.

    I think I do understand what he's going for here - he figures the Tory voting bloc is falling apart and their only hope of pulling it back together is to run the next election on a 'save Brexit' footing. He wants to close that line of attack down the way he has done with all the other attack lines. I do get that. And I'm sure he has polling to show that it's the right move.

    But I think he's on the wrong side of the zeitgeist with this one. It's just going to open him up to charges of hypocrisy when he changes his mind.

  • I think he's making the same mistake that Corbyn made in 2017 when he put hard brexit in the manifesto - making himself a hostage to fortune later by ruling sensible things out now

    The difference being that Corbyn had always been in favour of hard Brexit, whereas I am pretty sure that Starmer's "real" views on immigration are very different from what he is saying.

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