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  • He has to say that now, can you imagine the total shit storm that would be awoken in the right wing press and the tories if he said anything else. it would totally galvanise them against Labour.

    It would be dumb because they couldn’t even in act it in the next parliament anyway. The EU won’t even talk about it until it’s a settled issue in the country, that means to Tory’s being on board too and they will be, they just need to out of power for the next 10 years first.

  • Much as I love to take Starmer's side on this stuff because I do understand the logic, this freedom of movement statement has particularly wound me up. Upon reflection, losing our freedom of movement has had a fairly big personal impact on me and my family which explains why its a political position that winds me up even if I do understand the reasoning.

    Easy to assign lower priorities to stuff that doesn't personally affect you I suppose. Will try to be mindful of that.

  • Upon reflection, losing our freedom of movement has had a fairly big personal impact on me and my family

    Yeah, but in no way is Starmer responsible for that. If he came out now in favour of freedom of movement it would actively delay it and make it less likely to happen. in reality this is a 20 year road back to the singlemarket.

    I’m trying to ignore what Labour say on stuff like immigration and brexit and focus on the policies which are more positive than their rhetoric in interviews.

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