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  • That's just you entering the discussion in bad faith.

    Apologies, as usual it's wise not to mistake stupidity for malice. I had a good lunch and decided to take on the internet, the internet won.

    I'm actually very much opposed to the way that funds and pensions divert money towards big tobacco, weapons manufacture and oil etc. I don't give the people who invest in these a moral pass. These people also trusted fund managers and that should be a serious decision. If you want to make a case for people being railroaded into pension schemes being hurt I'm all out of sympathy.

    So, sorry for derailing your argument but discussing it was an option.

  • The most ethical option at my work still includes Shell and Meta... Sent a pissy message on public slack, vage non committal reply. No weapons or tobacco or mining, and some rules RE reducing emissions. But not fantastic no.

    I am writing emails via an UK "green my pension" site, will meet with one of the trust members when they are over...but we use legal and general and their least worse is the best we get :(

    And I lose the work uprate / income tax deduction for pensions if I invest all by myself. There are few options Triodos doesn't do pensions I found maybe one place.

    But I then have to figure out how to get that sent pre income tax into that fund and not sure I can as work may not do this.

    So you are right pension funds suck, unfortunately the choices do too. I shall keep pushing though.

  • I am most fully resigned to losing money by not investing in businesses I completely disagree with. It's up to everyone to make their choice and live with it as with everything in life.

    I just like to put it forward because maybe people will consider not funding war and death just to make a few extra percentage points if they see other people are doing it.

    It certainly doesn't make me friends at dinner parties!

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