EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • It's pure will not to buy a bike with SRAM.

    SRAM Force AXS cassette availability.

    No ETA for Red


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  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-63642950

    Still problems RE GB to NI medication supplies and no we can't source it all from RO Ireland.

  • It’s in the air. Lots of polls suddenly being published showing a clear majority think leaving was a mistake, the BBC finally allowed to talk about how Br*xit has fucked up the economy, a barrage of newspaper articles buttering up the populace for better relations and closer ties with the EU, Nigel Farage losing his shit. These aren’t coincidences, it’s a pronounced change of direction at the top of government.

  • I do wonder if they are doing this because they see the problem as Brexit itself or a labour party being the ones to gain political advantage by undoing the damage?

  • With Truss/Kwarteng having exposed the fantasist policies of the Tufton Street mafia to the harsh realities of 'the markets', Sunak/Hunt can attempt to bring some adult thinking to the Cabinet.
    All the ERG-supported nutters are purposefully, far from the Treasury or the Department of Business, Energy & Innovation.
    With the concept of UKCA kicked down the road for 2 years by Shapps, why not have some shadow standards alignment and aim for frictionless trade with a market of 500 million consumers on our doorstep?

    Imagine the average inhabitant of the UK being as rich as the average Swiss!

  • frictionless trade with a market of 500 million consumers on our doorstep

    We used to pay billions for this though. Whatever deal can be struck will be hard to sell to the population and will increase anti EU sentiment again. Especially if it includes freedom of movement which the EU has insisted is a tenet of frictionless trade.

  • We used to pay billions for this though

    Growth has a cost.

  • Of course, and if we paid the same amount of billions in sterling now we would effectively be paying 20% less due to deflation. amidoingitrite

  • Don't we just write it off against the foreign aid budget? /s

  • So at the moment we have buyers remorse from the Brexiteers but introduce the reality of a no cake deal and they'll be back to f**k the EU pretty quick.

  • I do value the effort to try and return to better terms with the EU though. Just think it's the generation who are 18 now that might manage it by the time they're in power. So maybe 30 years from now. And the fight will probably be on until then too.

  • Sooner probably. Put bluntly, it’s been 6 years since the vote and a lot of Leave voters are already dead. The reality of Br*xit is hardly going to forge any new ones to replace them.

  • I think they see the inevitable vector that the country will follow toward closer ties/rejoining, and they don’t want to be lumped in with the swivel-eyed lunatics and racists in the history books.

  • Imagine the average inhabitant of the UK being as rich as the average Swiss!

    Didn’t this kind of rhetoric get us where we are today in the first place?

  • I wonder if Starmer hasn’t read the room very well by saying no to joining the single market? so much media and polling traction these last few weeks and everybody even the racists have realised it (brexit) is never going to deliver on it’s promises and we are all worse off for it.

  • Take a look at the front pages today. Frothing at the mouth from the right wing rags so it’s suicide to back any kind of deal with Europe still.

    Public opinion will continue to shift towards better relations with Europe and hopefully will be a conversation the country is ready to take seriously by the next election.

  • If the Tories guarantee a bid to enter the EU as the next GE manifesto and Labour stick to their make Brexit work pledge.

    Does that change views?

  • Thousands EU nationals stuck in euss limbo
    Hundreds of small businesses lost
    No government in NI part to Brexit (DUP doesn't help)
    Permanent fights in some families
    £ never recovered from exit result
    Boris fucking Johnson
    An extremely denigrating xenophobic leave campaign
    Funds moving from London banking to Paris

    And now it all turns out to indeed be shit, wow. So what has been learned bar "project fear was right"?

  • From: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-63700905

    Brexit: Rishi Sunak rules out deal that relies on EU law alignment

    It follows reports that some in government want to move towards a Swiss-style deal, with less trading friction and more migration.

    Speaking at the CBI conference in Birmingham he said: "I voted for Brexit, I believe in Brexit"

    "I know that Brexit can deliver, and is already delivering, enormous benefits and opportunities for the country."

    Oh come on.....

  • Ah, I see Rishi has circled back to insisting he can pull a unicorn from the hat. God it's boring.

  • I don't know why the CBI didn't protest louder about Brexit once it became clear the "oven ready deal" would suck for UK businesses.

    Well perhaps there was a stunned silence followed by the whole room erupting in laughter. That's what NI businesses did when Boris told them "just put those customs forms in the bin".

  • CBI

    Tony Danker, the CBI director general, has joined the many Tory Brexiters who reacted with >alarm to yesterday’s story in saying that the government should not be aiming for a Swiss->style deal. He told the Today programme this morning:

    I’m a bit puzzled about the whole Swiss thing. It took them about 40 years to get to the >Swiss arrangement. Currently, we’re not even implementing Boris’s deal. Let’s >implement >Boris’s Brexit deal, that still has some growth in it, by the way, that’s all >come to a freeze, >and let’s forget the discussion about Switzerland for now.

    they love it, it's what Boris would have wanted.

  • I would laugh my ass off if GB had Euros.

    The back would just be an image of raw sewage being pumped into a river, while Aus still has Queenie (wait, no, the big eared guy now) on their money.

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