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You could also just setup local reporting centres. Just drive in, get someone to read the mileage, sign a digital form and fuck off. 2 mins tops.

imagine the traffic chaos that would cause ;)

@jellybaby

Please explain why road pricing would be bad for not-London. I'm clearly missing something.

bit of a generalisation, but if you live in a rural location you probably need to drive further to get to the shops etc.

Yeah I forget the London part since me and so so so so many other left London it’s very often not London focused then I get a reminder. Quite simple really.

The worlds not set for it yet. So many villages, communities and people are in public transport black spots for any form of transport.

Lopping tonnes more tax on them right away would isolate them even more driving more into poverty.

The place I am originally from gets a bus once an hour and takes an hour and two busses to get to the nearest supermarket. The place I live now I see busses so irregular I don’t actually think it has a time schedule would isolate what is already a pretty impoverished area even more.

In my suggested scheme driving in villages would be a lot cheaper than in cities. Not a lot of congestion.

50p/mile to drive down Clapham High Street. 5p/mile to drive down High Street, Street. 0.1p/mile to drive down the unclassified road to a village without a high street.

Please explain why road pricing would be bad for not-London. I'm clearly missing something.

Lack of alternatives mainly.

Road use isn't free now. Replace the VED + petrol/diesel tax with a per mile charge. Same amount of cash out on average. Charge more where there are alternatives and less where there aren't.

not to mention the logistics of retrofitting that

I have charge by the mile car insurance, the GPS tracker is just a little dongle that plugs into the OBD port. I think every car produced in something like the past 20 years should have one.

That's a terrible idea.

Move your freight on a railway and you are charged per mile travelled. Why not on roads too?

Explain

Taxing fuel is better.
High fuel consumption vehicles pay more, efficient vehicles pay less.
Paying a flat rate per mile removes that incentive.

How do you tax solar energy into an EV sitting on the owners drive?

Paying a flat rate per mile removes that incentive.

Then set the rate on the vehicle. Miles driven x big book of how efficient the vehicle is.

Efficient cars still kill people. I want fewer cars on the road.

Then set the rate on the vehicle. Miles driven x big book of how much the manufacturer has fiddled the test / elaborated the results efficient the vehicle is.

FTFY

I think the disconnect is VED is based on pollution output while the actual money it generates goes towards upkeep of the roads. Electric cars put just as much wear on the infrastructure so IMO should pay the same "road tax", but also we want to encourage less polluting vehicles for air quality.

how much the manufacturer has fiddled the test / elaborated the results

sure but the current VED bands are based on some number plucked from somewhere and there aren't people complaining about the way the numbers were created

So mile x vehicle weight x efficiency x alternatives available for that journey x congestion with a GPS tracker plugged into your ODB port. Glad we all agree.

Can the tracker have a Multipass slot and biometric reader? No licence, no moving.

while the actual money it generates goes towards upkeep of the roads

VED very explicitly doesn't go towards upkeep of roads, it just goes into the general taxation pool. Same as alcohol duty or whatever.

Sure what I mean is it eventually does because part of all tax goes to road upkeep.

Multipass slot

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Only if we all have to additionally wear orange ladder rack onesies.

cars still kill people

Cars don't kill people.
Wappers do.

@Soul - did you ever have any charging probs with your Zoe? Just gone to plug it in and it flashes yellow then goes blank. Won't start charging at all. Any thoughts?

No. Only issues we ever had was with the charger fuse popping. That would result in the same error probably.

Is there a way to hard reset the car?

So wait my Elon mobile is going to cost me the same as my big swedish XC6o fuel mobile? ffs

So the elderly Leaf passed its MOT. Now at 84k miles. 9 bars left of 12 on the range-o-meter. Here's to another year of low cost motoring contingent on ignoring water pump fault codes.