• What a shit show with ebay this week.

    Bought a Cinelli Sesamo stem, it was meant to be 140mm, it's 110mm.

    Bought an Apple Green Brooks B17, Yodel have fucking lost it.

    I fancied trying to get a partial refund for the stem since it was the wrong size which you can't do through ebay (it's either return it for a refund or nowt) so did it through paypal which the seller has taken umbrage with and started messaging me, not through the original transaction but via an item I have for sale!

    He (I'm happy assuming gender as he is obviously mashing the keyboard with the type of anger and indignation that only a man can) reckons I'm measuring the stem incorrectly and that they only came in 140mm.

    The messages became more and more indecipherable but the last one went,

    "who ever told u that (how to measure a stem) is a complete jack arse amd don’t no what there talking about I’ve been doing this for over 20 years please listen to me I’m not gunna lie to you why I’m earth would it be from the stem point when the stem length is determine how far your reach is gunna be with the frame
    Amd your position. Of the bike it’s self worth what the person is comfortable with so u measure the entire stem to work out the difference between you the stem seat post amd your positioning on the bike so would never measure it from the stem because that’s not we’re it begins simple"

    At this point I'm not sure whether he's trying to pull the wool over my eyes or his own.

    With the saddle the seller is being pretty communicative and such, there's I'm just bummed that they entrusted it to Yodel and they have lost it as what are the chances of me finding another one of those rare colours for sale?

  • hah! maybe just offer the stem for sale on here and try and get your money back rather than trying to reason with someone like that?
    probably better than banging your head against a brick wall any further even if you lose a few quid!

    i'd still be tempted to send a link to show how the rest of the people on planet earth measure stem length though...and then block them!

    https://www.modernbike.com/stem-measurements

  • Report the messages to eBay and have the twat banned for harassing you.

  • This is just painful:

    "who ever told u that (how to measure a stem) is a complete jack arse amd don’t no what there talking about I’ve been doing this for over 20 years please listen to me I’m not gunna lie to you why I’m earth would it be from the stem point when the stem length is determine how far your reach is gunna be with the frame
    Amd your position. Of the bike it’s self worth what the person is comfortable with so u measure the entire stem to work out the difference between you the stem seat post amd your positioning on the bike so would never measure it from the stem because that’s not we’re it begins simple"

    To think that this person is actually out there, alive and operating in society...I've often wondered, how do people like this actually operate? as in with responsibilities and day to day life? I have to assume their inability to write coherently is not an accurate representation of their general intelligence...fingers crossed anyway...
    But yeah, probably best not to engage with them further! Just do whatever you need to get your money back.

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