• Interesting to see the UKCA has been postponed by Grant Shapps/Michael Green/etc, for the 3rd time. This time for 2 years. it was a nuts idea that was just going to cost business lots of money for zero benefit.

    It'll be dead after the next election and is just another step on the road back to standards alinement and re joining the single market, customs union etc.

    My long terms prediction is we'll have two terms of Labour moving us closer and closer to the EU, perhaps "a" customs union in the second term and the Tories returning 2035 ish to take us back into the single market.

  • It makes sense to move back to the EU. Unless a fantastic India deal is struck in the meantime? The EU has no tradedeals with India, but it would really need to be something great to stop moving closed to the EU.

    Going to be picky here: There is no "a" customs union. And the problem with that is the AUS/NZ deals which the UK signed up for, will they roll over? Or merge into EU deals?

    And if they do...their beef etc. is not EU approved. So, this is a tricky issue to resolve, perhaps the UK can opt out of those deals, but it will cost. (these are no good anyway) If that tradedeal does not go and we are still not back in the EU regulations in 15 years, the "irish sea border" is definitely here to stay.

    Switzerland is the closest to a lot of custom deals and that might work for the UK.

    Maybe...it depends how much the EU wants somebody who isn't that keen on the EU project and seemed only in it for itself back.

    I mean the treatment of us citizens of nowhere was really fantastic, not. And the mess in Northern Ireland, ergh.

    And the UK also seems to have forgotten the EU is =also= a peace project. An attitude of "we are so special" and "it is just about the economy" with all the fire fighting the EU has to do / yet another way in Europe, no thanks if you ask me.

    At the same time the UK is also historically aligned with many non EU countries (not always in a positive way heh) and in that sense can enrich the EU as well, with not just trade knowledge but also genuine understanding and cultural exchange.

    With a bit of genuine understanding of the shittiness of Brexit/really wanting in and not just for the £...well, why not? :)

  • AUS/NZ deals which the UK signed up for

    Yeah, that's been talked about this week in parliament, George Eustice was talking about how crap it was, he was all over it at the time as mister for Food / rural affairs, but there already turning on it.

    It also has a 6 month cancellation clause so it might not even make it to the end of this parliament let alone 10 years.

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