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• #3477
My understanding was that the pressure was coming from European countries that were getting fatigued and not enthusiastic to keep funding weapons and endure high energy costs so that Ukraine could meets its stated red lines i.e the return of Crimea rather than an agreed truce at pre Feb 22 lines of control which might likely be achievable far sooner
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• #3478
You can call me naive, but I was hoping we would have been past this mideval crap. Of course wars are always about money and resources, but when will we be too far that road. Corporations are not supposed to have a concience like nation states. Their only raison d'etre is to create shareholder value. Which one will be the first one to deploy robot drone army and build nukes to extract maximum added value?
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• #3479
I would say it is safe to speculate that unless a treaty is put in place on autonomous arms and warfare then it is safe to conclude their is a 100% chance a mercenary robot/ drone/ autonomous army is in the future
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• #3480
Corporations are not supposed to have a concience
I'm not sure supposed is the right word here, I'd say they really should do, but too many companies and people have been convinced of
Their only raison d'etre is to create shareholder value.
This bullshit.
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• #3481
There have already been confirmed AI robot sniper kills by Mossad.
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• #3482
You really think we can trust corporations to self-regulate? For some mystical reason the standard of living is not highest in a laissez-faire societies were there is no nation state governance.
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• #3483
That is some scary stuff. No point in getting a chest plate when you will get headshot by a turret.
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• #3484
It's the robotics that terrify me - I always knew there would be a boston dynamics style dog with a machine gun on it somewhere in existence, but some of the ghost robotics stuff being marketed is mental
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• #3485
You really think we can trust corporations to self-regulate?
Not even a little bit, but I didn't say that.
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• #3486
If anybody is interested in the Mossad robot sniper hit that I mentioned, here's the NYT write up. It was fairly big (but not unexpected news) with my AI customer last year. Kind of chilling.
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• #3487
I saw something similar from that recent Chinese arms show with unmanned tanks etc. too
Hilarious that Boston Dynamic keep up the cute-sy Youtube videos when they definitely have the biped robots on tape with double Desert Eagles and/or Minigun
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• #3488
Yeah, fair enough. Still I don't think as a legal entity a company can have a concience or other goal than creating value. The people running it should and that is weak point in the equation. we are getting off topic so let's just end with #slavaukraini #putinhuilo #russiaisaterroriststate
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• #3489
Yikes two Russian missiles ‘off course’ hit Poland and killed two
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• #3490
Jesus. This could get interesting
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• #3491
Jesus this could get messy.
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• #3492
Speculation it could be air defence missiles fired by Ukraine that missed and crashed
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• #3493
Please no
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• #3494
20 min old article from AP
It was Russia’s biggest barrage yet, and some of the missiles crossed into Poland, where two people were killed, according to a U.S. official. It marked the first time in the war that Russian weapons have come down on a NATO country.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52
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• #3495
I reckon this has brought us a lot closer to stationing NATO soldiers and weapons systems inside Ukraine itself. There really is no justification any more for not allowing our planes and anti-rocket systems to be present across the entire Ukrainian territory. It's not that those two Poles are more worth than the thousands of Ukrainians killed so far, it's just that our policy of restraint is no longer worth much.
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• #3496
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• #3497
Armchair Generals out in force tonight
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• #3499
It's the robotics that terrify me - I always knew there would be a boston dynamics style dog with a machine gun on it somewhere in existence, but some of the ghost robotics stuff being marketed is mental
Big same. It breaks my heart that I can't enjoy any advancements in robotics because all I can think when I see something new is "how long until they strap a gun to it?"
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• #3500
Willing to bet good money that todays top search will be”NATO Article 4”
I've also suggestions that this stuff doesn't really mean that much. There was a brief phase where Ukraine's official policy was that they would only recogise a post-Putin Russia as a worthy partner for dialogue. As far as I could understand that put the Americans in a delicate situation in terms of what they were spending all their money on– was it a war to change the regime in Russia or merely a process to restore peace and sovereignty within Ukraine.
My guess is that 'being willing to talk' is just the formality NATO needs to have in place to be able to continue to support the Ukranians militarily.