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  • I wasn't including myself in that, and I'd generally vote green unless it made a blind bit of difference in my massive labour majority constituency, but that's not who I was talking about or what swing voters means.

  • Voting for The Green Party (Rayner too) makes a difference. They achieve things, as opposed to some in here 😉

  • Voting for The Green Party (Rayner too) makes a difference

    According to a recent article in the FT, about 60% of votes cast in the last general election had no influence on the election result at all.

  • Voting for The Green Party (Rayner too) makes a difference. They achieve things, as opposed to some in here 😉

    Here it doesn't, it's a nailed on labour seat, but I do it anyway in the hope they are the second biggest party and that makes the labour MP think a little. I did vote labour when Corbyn was in charge to show some kind of support there, although I obviously wasn't voting for him, and in the by-election after the very popular local MP died in case the next one wasn't as popular, but he walked it. I vote for green councillors too but it's also all labour here by a margin.
    None of that makes me a swing voter though because whatever I do doesn't matter so no one is gunning for my vote, swing voters are in the marginal seats and generally ones that could go either labour or Tory, so labour think they need to be Tory enough to convince the arseholes to go with them and the Tories are more Tory to make sure the arseholes stay with them and don't go full ukip or BNP, so they all end up pandering to arseholes rather than everyone else. That's why I was hoping with the Tories being predicted to completely flop, labour could sideline the arsehole vote and concentrate on decent stuff.

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