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The Fiona Hill testimony in the US was a pretty powerful example of this.
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I think any northerner living down here would agree with everything they've found. I'm a video editor mainly cutting commercials and the vast majority of people I work with are public school educated, all of them assume you're thick as pig shit when they first meet you.
The film and advertising agency world is a great example of class divide, with producers and bullshit client servicing rolls filed with posh public school types and the plebs in the technical positions.
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the vast range of accents ina relatively small area
There's a really interesting study on this somewhere and their marked decline. See for eg the expansion of the Birmingham accent to surrounding areas. Iirc Yorkshire has been impacted by this in the middle of the last century due to ease of movement over previously awkward terrain.
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bullshit client servicing rolls filed with posh public school types
That's the same for lots of areas. We always used to categorise it into 3; public school, Essex, and Eurotrash. (financial services).
The idea being for client sales teams you need someone from each to relate to all the various clients you might have.
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public school/boarding school is such an unbelievably intransigent culture in the uk. It not just posh thugs and princesses who are such a problematic element in society though. You can almost always spot boarding school survivors in public institutions by their practical briskness and inability to tolerate difficulty- it’s an odd combination of being privileged and often brutalised at the same time. Don’t get me wrong some of these people made passionate contributions that benefit others but, thinking of the ones i know, i also think of their own questionable self interest and who from a normal background also could have done the work they had done, perhaps better, if they had had a chance. So much of public life is designed around the drills of boarding / public school and the values invested therein. Their sense of themselves as ‘mucking in’ and self importance, grr. You often find them in the NHS and in universities talking about how it is important to listen to nurses and secretaries while not listening to nurses and secretaries. It is such a culture though that it informs the social and practical arrangements of whole swathes of m-class life, regardless of the school background of the majority in it. People emulate it. the grammar school i went to lived in the shadow of three v posh schools, there were other state schools around, and other grammar schools, but they were treated like they didn’t exist. it was like living in a fucking wilfred owen poem mixed with a 0 budget, pilot episode of the OC. There were lots of driven and academically brilliant kids who did well but the people who did well who didn’t work hard and didn’t have an aptitude for the more formalised routes to wealth were the ones who successfully assimilated with the posh kids. then, when they’re sorted and in their forties after
a lifetime of kissing ass and false consciousness they talk about their humble background and how they worked their way up like it is some moral trump card. fuck them and their golf clubs -
It is such a culture though that it informs the social and practical arrangements of whole swathes of m-class life, regardless of the school background of the majority in it
There was an interesting piece in one of the papers about this.
The thrust of it was that school fee inflation has meant that most of the traditional middle class professions can no longer pay private school fees and the kids going to these schools today resemble the international plutocrat class instead. Consequence being that the historical middle class support for private education could go away in this generation.
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Ha, you'll be fine, the good thing about post is it's very easy to call people out on their bullshit if you know what you're doing.
The interesting thing about working with people like that is discovering how little education a lot of them have despite their parents paying through the nose for it. The level of entitlement on the other hand is something else, the most incredibly incompetent people I've every met being amazed that they're not running agencies.
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Old bloke I speak to occasionally (Oxfordshire’s Steventon) has a very distinct burr, almost Wiltshire in intonation
But definitely only very old folk round y’eer -
At last, a victory for common sense:
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You are wrong.
Bounty are total shit.
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I miss bountys.
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@eb One thing I love about the UK is the vast range of accents ina relatively small area. I know it's not unique. it's a real shame that people feel and rightly so that aan accent other than the generic south /home counties / will place them down the picking order. Class system is still rife in the UK.