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  • I had an 8freight, I admired the design but it was not anything like as good to ride as all the long john designs I've had since. very squirrely. it's also bad having the load behind you, as you can't see it.

  • Cheers, I hear you about having the load, length behind you. Do you think the squirreliness (sic) was because of Mikes love of upright head tubes?
    A long/flat tail would be much easier for me to build to try out an idea.

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