The fall of the Tory party

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  • Genuinely?

    For me it's a few things namely;

    • tendency to consider other view points/factors - aka "boths-sides" in modern parlance
    • not holding extreme and unrealistic opinions/considering the practical
    • failure to put all the things in binary opposition
  • The Stiftung Wissenschaft und Politik?

  • As a rightist dad, I've never really understood democratic socialism (or more chillingly Christian socialism).
    Are they not completely opposed political philosophies?

  • "I make rational decisions based on logical inference from evidence; YOU are ideological / tribal / in hock to the Party"

  • Genuinely?

    For me it's a few things namely;

    tendency to consider other view points/factors - aka "boths-sides" in modern parlance
    not holding extreme and unrealistic opinions/considering the practical
    failure to put all the things in binary opposition

    I think your bullet points are more related to my personality (or lack of) rather than political views. I have an autism disorder,a massive data nerd and also earn a living, at least in part, from analysing things as objectively as I can. It doesn't help that I'm also the world's largest pedant. Its possible to be left wing but know that the left wing aren't a realistic immediate solution to the problems in front of the country right now.

    For what its worth, I left the SWP just after the Iraq war protests in 2003 and remained party-less until I joined Labour after the referendum. 8 years a union rep in the NHS.

    Anyway, its no big deal....was genuinely flabbergasted to be called a centerist. Its the first time in my life I haven't been mocked for being a hopeless leftie!

  • Centrist dad = both-sidesing from a position of privilege, very invested in the status quo, maybe socially liberal but fiscally conservative - huge blind spot regarding their own contribution to systemic inequality.
    Probably an ‘accidental’ landlord.

  • Yeah. It's all very subjective. Almost like pejorative terms and simplistic generalisations aren't helpful.

    It's been a while since I was in an office you could talk about things in, but when I was I'd always try and pin people down on their definitions because of this.

    "socialism has never worked" oh right, you mean by your metrics which you then won't apply to capitalism.

  • Probably an ‘accidental’ landlord.

    #Csb I was genuinely an accidental landlord for a bit.

  • tendency to consider other view points/factors - aka "boths-sides" in modern parlance. not holding extreme and unrealistic opinions/considering the practical. failure to put all the things in binary opposition

    I think I am a centrist dad because none of this sounded bad to me. @Dramatic_Hammer 's post was also pretty uncomfortably accurate reading although I have never been a landlord...

  • Centrist Dad just means you wear Carhartt WIP with Patagonia 5 panel caps, have a Victorian Reno Instagram account and make twee witty placards for your kids to hold a protests ie Amey

  • Carhartt

    Carhartt a bit infra dig for your average centrist dad? I thought it was workwear whereas centrist dads have emails jobs?

  • I'm also the world's largest pedant.

    You’re not.

  • Nah, centrist dads dress like extras from Kids.

  • I'm also the world's largest pedant.
    

    You’re not.

    Well... technically...

  • I for one very much appreciate your consistently objective input on matters. I wish I had the patience required to constantly bat away the responses you get from folks who assume that because you're not blindly agreeing with them, then you must be on "the other side".

  • Who runs the Number 10 Twitter account that is currently causing the fuss with the drum music video? Does it just exist to fluff up the Prime Minister whoever that may be at the time? Or is it a Conservative ran thing?

  • Thanks Mick, kind words. As long as we're clear that I'm fully aware i'm wrong a lot of the time and depend on people calling me out when I am. I'm well aware that I come across as over confident sometimes.

  • Fucking leftie.

    Ah thats better. ::relaxes::

  • are the centrist dads fighting in the car park now or wha?

  • Reported for grooming

  • For a moment I thought you were offering me some grooming.

  • Would you like some?

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The fall of the Tory party

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