The fall of the Tory party

It's not remotely on KS's agenda.

also just read Rosie Duffield outed herself as transphobic, shame, won’t go campaigning for her again (made be she did it to impress KS)

She's been a known transphobe for ages. But that's fine in KS's party, as long as you're to the right of the party. If you're an Asian MP on the left, you'll get hauled up before the Starmer Chamber for pointing out how Sunak's appointment isn't a win for equality. On the right? Do what you like.

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Amber Rudd told GB News it was "extraordinary" the current home secretary had said it was her "dream" to see a plane take off for Rwanda.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63416060

You've deleted and in that spirit so will I.

ok, well maybe not outed herself but made statement recently reported in guardian - groan.

She's got form with it and has had for a while. It's a source of genuine bafflement she isn't censored for it given Labour's apparent official position on the subject. Especially in the light of how left-wing MPs are hauled up for the most minor deviations from official positions. And if I sound like I've an axe to grind on this, that's because I have.

https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/labour-party-conference-backs-proportional-representation/

I see you and I raise you...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/24/keir-starmer-defies-call-for-changes-to-first-past-the-post-voting-system

Loves democracy does our Keith.

Oh. You can’t look away from the news for 5 minutes without it turning to shit.

Hang on. That predates the motion. It’s got to at least be on his agenda now, even if it’s not a priority. The cunt.

Have I entered the wrong thread? This appears to have become the anyone but labour thread

thanks really interesting!

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No. We are now in for the long haul. The next election will be Jan 2025 and the Tories will get an 11 seat majority.

Any time the Tories are doing badly you can always rely on some supposed lefty to come along and attack their own side

It's good to be principled but I'd sell one or two principles down the river to be able to implement others. I believe it's called compromise.
Im either naive or a Tory or a labour Tory I assume.

Scoop! Averted reverse ferret = rats in a sack = rise of the nutters...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20248220/suella-braverman-leak-plan-growth-visa/

Beats talking about surnames.

Yes, I seem to remember the 'lefties' doing exactly that just after the Brexit vote when the Tories were in utter turmoil. Oh no, wait... they weren't lefties. They were the adults in the room. My mistake.

The fact you have framed it that way proves the point entirely.

I’ve said as soon as a labour get in power they’ll go through exactly the same struggles.

It's good to be principled but I'd sell one or two principles down the river to be able to implement others. I believe it's called compromise.

The left must stick to their principles and never compromise, even if it means rampant inequality and people in poverty living under a Tory government forever!

Labour must remain in opposition until they are perfect! Even though however bad they might be they'll be so much better than this absolute shower!

Etc.

She's been a known transphobe for ages. But that's fine in KS's party, as long as you're to the right of the party.

If you're a known transphobe under Sunak you become (in)equalities minister.

Keith is funny.

It's not though. It's a shit joke. It's not offensive, but it's not funny. And anyway, every joke/meme which undermines Sir Kier and Labour is playing into the hands of the Tories and prolonging the current shitshow which is having a real effect on people's lives.

That's inexcusable, so fuck off with the 'UH KEITH ITS SO FUNNI LOL'.

(And no, I'm not a centrist Dad, I never called Corbyn 'Magic Grandpa' and I don't have #FBPE in my Twitter handle. Calling me a Keir fan would be a stretch too.)

Have I entered the wrong thread? This appears to have become the anyone but labour thread

Forum seems to be full of Tories these days. See the golf club thread. Sad times.