The fall of the Tory party

It still appears to be remarkably effective re the centrist dad lufgussets above. A shitpost bullseye.

We went too far, too fast in changing the thread title.

Patience

The honeymoon is over after a say.
There's are already ERG mumblings

And even if he drags on to an election in over a year. The country is full of racists and....

https://youtu.be/HMvwNkPgwgg

Magic Grandpa

I don't think that's a centrist-dad thing to say at all. Quite the opposite.

It just sounds like one of those gash things Americans do like calling Trump "45", or referring to Democrats as DemoCROOKS.

There is obviously a slightly small c- onservative streek running through all centerist dads, so Keith or whatever, hits two tender points; 1. Gash Americanisms, and 2. unsporting conduct. (maybe 3. having to Google who Keith is, and then still not understanding and then feeling old and out of the loop once someone does explain it).

Just call a cunt a cunt, rather than something reminiscent of a teenager fake coughing while saying dick.

At a tangent (but related, I will get there), I was feeling a touch unusual at the weekend after COVID booster and flu vaccine administered at the same time. Or at least that’s my excuse for reading at extract of Bono’s book on Saturday. He referred to Obama as 44….

Gash Americanisms

Now it's my turn to be gauche because I thought "Sleepy Joe" was kinda funny - and true. Rashid Sanook anyone?

There's also the prospect of Faridge mk2

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/20/brexits-nigel-farage-hints-at-political-comeback-to-replace-conservative-party/

Which would definitely help not derail this thread

Absolute confirmation that he’s engaged in a slow burn performance art project

“I have to tell you they are the most self-centred selfish people I’ve ever met in my life, they’re in politics not for their beliefs, not for what they can do for the country, they’re in it for their own ghastly little careers”

Well, it’s either that or he sees the possibility that the grift is on

Attendance record of Ukip MEPs:

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/04/11/the-worst-in-the-european-parliament-how-truant-brexit-meps-make-a-mockery-of-britain/

You might as well criticise Sinn Fein for not taking their seats in Westminster?

I guess it’s the grift then.

Hang on though, it still could be performance art.

Fuck, these guys are good

Sinn Fein are performance artists?

That really would be huge

This crossed my mind. Decided I didn't want to have to go there and didn't post.

winds all the right people up.

As in, it winds up Labour voters (but evidently not right wingers)?

Are you referring to the Second Dail or Third Dail iteration?

At this point, I genuinely have no idea

This braverman thing is going to be popcorn for the next few weeks. given that the special fisting event has been put back another couple of weeks pmq’s will be focused on it fairly intently. There not going to have much else to talk about because the government isn’t doing anything.

It already looks like Starmer has caught Rishi in a lie to parliament. It sounds like there is evidence that Braverman was lying through her teeth until she was presented with the evidence. It’s highly unlikely that Simon case wouldn’t have told Rishi the details of this interaction. But rishi give the account that she highlighted the issue when she realised what she’d done.

Simon case is reported to have been furious that she was reappointed and He isn’t going to have any reason to lie to help out.

RS gone by Christmas? The fisting will be unable to hide the fact that RS emptied the larder for the foreseeable future as CotE. Stagflation, a currency crisis and a cabinet of empty suits...

Doesn't the fact that he oversaw the furlough payments count for a lot in many people's eyes?

And some of the lucrative contracts that were dished out? He must have had some role in signing those off but the people who bring up the furlough scheme thing will not acknowledge any wrongdoing by Johnson and chums during the pandemic.

having to Google who Keith is, and then still not understanding and then feeling old and out of the loop once someone does explain it

Yeah. I'm only half paying attention to this name thing and I have no idea what the significance of mis-calling Starmer 'Keith' is, why anyone is offended or why other people think it's funny...

I have no idea what the significance of mis-calling Starmer 'Keith' is, why anyone is offended or why other people think it's funny

Me neither
Just the ramblings of the anti Keith coalition

I'm sure he did. I just get the impression that the furlough scheme was a strikingly unTory thing to do, so the fact that he was willing to do that makes it feel like he has already torn off the plaster in terms of being seen, by Tory voters, as economically to the left of much of the party.

Literally the only people trotting out Magic Grandpa were centrist dads with #FBPE in their Twitter handles. YMMV, of course, but for me, it was the common parlance of that constituency. Actual Tories or right wingers just used to say 'Corbyn'. It was only the 'trying to be clever' mob who insisted on Magic Grandpa and 'Corbynista', both of which meant you'd already lost the argument in my book.

Keith is funny. It's funny because it nails Starmer as a boring cunt, it's funny because his fans are riled about it without really knowing why and it's funny because it takes the piss beautifully without being offensive. Something centrist dads never quite managed in their four-year campaign.

there’s a lot of talk about replacing first past the post voting in this thread and some talk about hoping this will happen but is it really a thing? is there a pressure group (apart from this incredibly influential thread of course), a petition; is it anywhere near KS’s agenda? (not trolling, would be on board with bettering the system)