The fall of the Tory party

Crossing the floor is effectively a resignation from your job. It’ll never be done by enough to make a difference, so what’s the point?

Remember Umunna et al and the Independent Group for Change? I think every one of them lost their seats at the next election. Stand and fight is the only option until PR.

Didn't they just join the lib dems?

This is fine, etc. https://twitter.com/tortoise/status/1583386704710230016

Would have much preferred if yesterday they installed a caretaker PM (Mordaunt, Wallace etc.) and governed for a period as it it were national crisis, the argument can be made on the energy crisis. Reach out to opposition parties, backbenchers and show responsible, boring government for 6 months. Feels like we have just gone back to 'who can say the wildest, provocative, delusional stuff' kind of politics now with the shadow of Bojo looming.

The pet tortoise wouldn't have voted for the candidate against the lettuce would it? Would it?

Interesting, somebody on question time last night said they'd signed 4 people up to the tory party to be able to have a vote on the new MP, one of them was there tortoise.

Last nights Newsnight montage of the chaos and the C4 News montage in the comments
https://twitter.com/timoncheese/status/1583216768986013701

Look, its going to be Boris, okay? He wants his (borrowed) moneys worth out of that fuckin' wallpaper!

Just imagine how much will we have spent on moving him into and out of no10 and Chequers.

Liz Truss didn't get the house decorated surely?

Thread title change?

Could she get trades booked in and working in 44 days when she couldn't run a country?

Give that editor a raise, now.

NEW: Sources close to Privileges Committee say evidence is so damning that Boris Johnson could be 'gone by Christmas' if he returns.

One Tory MP tells me any attempt to kill the inquiry could 'bring down the govt'.

Yet momentum builds behind Johnson.

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1583458254109057027

I think it would be worth Boris being PM again just to end up losing a byelection, top lolz

Yeh read another tweet earlier claiming No.10 ie Truss handed over loads of damning evidence that buries him

Edit found the tweet - https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/status/1583350296495161344

I think we've learned that now the only thing that actually brings down a Tory Government is if enough Tory MPs have a problem with it. Anything else which suffers (ethics, criminal behaviour, the economy) is just ignored. Even if this committee rules against him, it will just become another constitutional blank square.

I'm talking purely out of my arse, but my arse is a pretty good Tory windsock, so to speak.

No.10 ie Truss

Is this known? I read that tweet just as saying the evidence that number 10 had to hand over previously, presumably by officials who worked under Johnson, was damming enough.

I think your Tory windarse is pretty accurate. I think, even if the standards committee recommends a suspension, the Commmons has to vote to approve it, which, given the likely outcome, they won't. Lots of blah blah it was ages ago, he's changed, it's a new government and will be different this time etc.
But it will be another massive nail into the Tory electoral coffin with maybe the odd tory resigning over. Johnson2 will again fall by death of 1000 scandalous cuts, rather than any single thing.

People like JR-M must be the only ones left who truly believe we (the general public) can't spot a scapegoat when we see one. Even aside from his crimes as PM, Bringing Boris back (my apologies, BorisOrBust) would be such an obvious smokescreen for all the bollocks going on behind the scenes.

Do the Tory MP's who previously had letters in against Boris just resubmit them on day 1? If you are one of the cabinet who resigned your position from serving him last time, how can you take a cabinet position this time? I know the answer is most are self serving jobsworths but some must have some self respect you'd hope

I still can't get my head around how someone who resigned and was labelled unfit to run the country, with an open investigation could even possibly be in the running?

What would happen if he was appointed Ans the investigation was proven? Would we then have to appoint another PM? Or would it just sort of disappear?

I honestly dispair.

Mate, there's still people out there who think Gordon Brown caused the global financial crisis. I think you're giving the general public too much credit.

As nice as that list is, I can think of a few more pressing issues I'd prefer Labour to focus on.

Can't see fannying about with that sort of stuff going down well.

OK, just add

2.5 Do 4 and a bit years of solid work to sort the country out.