The fall of the Tory party

And we wonder why the vast majority of the public don't give a fuck about politics.

However, the last 24hrs has been absolutely amazing, if you do care. I've been trying to catch up on it all, and it's like trying to binge the last 30 years of EastEnders in 30mins

great summary

EastEnders

PMQs would probably be better (and just as pointless) if it was just a back and forth of "You muppet!", "You slaaag!", "You muppet!", "You slaaag!", etc.

We've got a Grant now, we just need a senior politician called Peggy and we're there.

It was pure politics by Labour

You say that like it's a bad thing - isn't their job to challenge the gov't and exert as much influence over Parliamentary proceedings as possible? When the administration is riding roughshod over procedure and its own manifesto you can hardly accuse Labour of being anti-democratic or going against the "will of the people".

Exactly such a large majority could be very complicated. Some on the left of the party still blame those on the right for the current mess of a Conservative Gov.
I think scrutiny will expose the divisions, this may be no bad thing but who knows.

Can't wait for someone to scream "You ain't my mother!" at Truss

You say that like it's a bad thing

It's not, but it's a shame that the standards of Parliament have dropped to such a level that it is necessary.

Galactic understatement aside, the last 12 years of Tory rule has a lot to answer for, it may take a long time (and several more changes) before we get anywhere near back to a situation where things aren't so short term (and short term now is days not even 5 years of a normal ruling term) and Governments can quelle horreur actually do things for the long term benefit of the country even if this means taking on and continuing things from previous/opposition parties.

So much of it just needs throwing away such as twats parading round in 15th century garb carrying ceremonial maces and staffs.

It all has to go, the flags, dark wood, bars, corners, costumes, including moving them out of the Houses of Parliament. Turn it into a museum, then build a new building that's specifically designed around conflict resolution (there must be some form of behavioural architecture or something to do this?).

Put them into one of those neutral buildings that you see in every other country, where people can debate and vote with ease (and, unbelievably given the last 24 hours, safely) and don't feel the need to shout at each other. Their behaviour is their fault, but we insist on making them run a 21st century country with tools and infrastructure 100's of years out of date.

Sir Graham Brady, chair of the powerful backbench 1922 Committee, has
gone into No 10 to meet Liz Truss.

+100

...plus a set of hotel style rooms that can be used for MPs to stay if/when necessary.

Also, put the new one in Birmingham.

You could do previously
https://www.brewdog.com/blog/vote-for-punk

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it may take a long time (and several more changes) before we get anywhere near back to a situation where things aren't so short term

The interesting question for me is how much of the instability of the Conservative party is being driven by its internal structures (i.e. the relationship of Cabinet to 1922 to MPs to members), and whether Labour would be vulnerable to the same issues if in power.

My memory of the Blair years was that even when things were going badly there was little talk of the PLP or membership being able to disrupt the succession?

Well, shit...

Does a PM have to resign, can they be fired? Wondering if the position shows there’s no confidence, the incumbent could ignore that and just crack on?

Oh, edit that. Brady was called in, so she’s going to sack him

Absolutely. Put it in the midlands somewhere and pay for it by selling off part of the Palace of Westminster as a fancy hotel, keep the rest as a museum.

Yes to all this, I like to keep up to date as best I can.

The system is an anachronism, yes yes, mother of parliaments etc.. but it's not much of an advert at the moment so renew, refresh, relevant etc.....

Send it to Middlesbrough and see how quickly they get investment. Or Plymouth so we get a motorway to the southeast.

Personally I'd like an English parliament in Birmingham and a small federal overlord body in Westminster split between the four home nations.

Personally I'd like an English parliament in Birmingham and a small federal overlord body in Westminster split between the four home nations.

If you want regional laws then England is too big, much bigger than the other 3. Or the others are too small. The home nations are an historical curiosity and not a sensible foundation for modern government.

This feels like the Trump administration, moving from disaster to disaster so quickly that nothing gets done, no material changes occur and we all just become fatigued by it all.

She can't do that - he's elected by the conservative MPs. He is the one in control of the rules by which she could be removed / sacked by Tory MPs.

Technically, the rules say they cannot sack her in the first 12 months. However, if a majority of MPs vote to change the rules, they can be changed. So in effect - if a majority of MPs want her gone, she would be gone.

The impossible bit seems to be what happens then.

This feels like the Trump administration

Don't take this the wrong way, but how would you know?

I suspect the reporting feels similar (it sells eyeballs for ads, fuckers)

where is Gove?

Round at his dealer’s stocking up for the weekend’s festivities?