The fall of the Tory party

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  • Who is the deputy PM today?


    Deputy PM and giant, trundling, cigar-chomping colicky baby Thérèse Coffey was found incapable of answering 18 different questions about govt policy in just 3 minutes
    She did, however, find time to reportedly scrap anti-smoking plans. She’s the health minister
    And then, in words that neatly explain the entire mindset of this govt, she told Radio 4 that “Poor people are richer than you think”

  • Agree, it never made sense to me how you can fail at the highest level and still get your old job back. A la Boris and Theresa May.

  • Ed Miliband, Jeremy Corbyn I’m sure we could come up with a lot more, they failed and didn’t even get to the highest level.

    Also would you rather failures promoted or demoted? They’ve still been voted to represent.

    Maybe I don’t understand the point being made :-)

  • The mail have turned. Wonder if it’s a coincidence that Dacre wasn’t on the honours list released yesterday?


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  • Sure, that might be one of the reasons he isn’t on the list.

    I’m saying the editorial is now anti Tory because he didn’t make the list.

    Cause and effect and all that.

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  • So, Liz goes, Hunt gets the job and appoints Sunak as chancellor?

    Bet the conspiracy theorists are having a field day now we have a chancellor with a Chinese wife (or Japanese as Hunt once said).

  • Liz goes

    They should keep her in place, get her to appoint a cabinet of one nation tories and ditch the nutters like Mogg and braverman. Set a date for an election giving them enough time to start to rectify the damage and only then appoint a new leader (Hunt).

    They keep her in place or they'll be forced to go to election early and be whiped out

  • Truss's new chancellor looks like he is heading for austerity mk II and trashing the UK like he trashed the NHS.

    Seems like the captain has decided to sink the ship with everybody on board....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63268238

  • Why are there not riots yet?

  • Because as a whole, we're an apathetic bunch.

  • Because a lot of the population think the EU and the liberal elite caused our problems.

    ^ said only half jokingly

  • “We were being governed better when the Tories took an eight week break from governing to choose someone to govern”

  • So the "highest tax burden in 70 years" is about to get worse, while we also have cuts to services??

  • In principle yeah, they need time more than anything else, but a pragmatic solution is very difficult after the May and Johnson years ostracised all semblance of reason from the the party.

    They're not just split along ideological lines and vested interests, they're split between various brexit myths and even dead cats that they've co-opted as real policy for their own benefit.

    It's much easier to invent some more bullshit for a chunk of them to rally behind after a phone call to 3 newspaper owners.

  • Name and numbers?

    Assume Russian troll just going with the chaos.

  • So we are going to get Austerity 2.0 and mortgage rates are going to kill discretionary spending for many, so where does growth growth growth come from?

    Thread on the impact of mortgage rate rises
    https://twitter.com/TorstenBell/status/1581175015189274625

  • one nation tories and ditch the nutters like Mogg and braverman.

    The tories are Mogg and Braverman types now. It's how they got through Brexit and swallowed the Farage coup.

  • Why tis the growth growth growth of bills and deficits.

    She also claimed to have a plan for government, nobody knew she meant a labour one.

  • I’ve just found out that Braverman lives about 100yard a from my house(constituency home), which is nice

    I assume she’s fleecing the tax payer for a London home too, fucking benefit scrounger etc.

    Never seen her down the local co-op

  • Brexit broke the link between governance and reason, between policy and evidence.

    Until Brexit, politicians only rarely got away with defying the empirical facts or elementary logic.

    But in 2016 they pretended that a country could weaken its trading ties to its nearest neighbours and get richer, which is like saying you can step in a bath of ice and get warmer.

    Once the taboo on magical thinking was broken, once fantasy became a Conservative habit, Trussonomics became inevitable – smilingly insisting that you could cut taxes for the richest, make “absolutely” no cuts to public services and control borrowing, all at the same time.

    The three weeks since Kwarteng delivered his mini-budget have seen the shattering of the sovereignty delusion.

    For Truss and her now ex-chancellor were given the rudest of reminders that in our interdependent world there is no such thing as pure, untrammelled sovereignty.

    No government can do what the hell it likes, heedless of others. In this case, the restraint on sovereignty was not the EU: it was the money markets. But their verdict was as binding as any Brussels edict; in fact it was more so.

    They ordered the removal of a chancellor after just 38 days in office and the cancellation of the government’s economic strategy.

    It is the financial markets that have taken back control

    ffs this week I’m seeing a lot more evictions, (mattresses and possessions on the street) soup kitchens, food banks, 4pm crowds in supermarkets for yellow sticker food in an already austerity forced borough of Newham..

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