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  • As much I love our current builders (sloppy as they can be at times), I'm very much ready for them to fuck off. It seems I have about a 10 day limit on my tolerance for mess and stomping about, and we're now on day 14 of loft bathroom and main bedroom reno. Bathroom is nearly done and they've gutted the bedroom walls.

    Bedroom was more fucked than we anticipated (because of course it was). Whole ceiling came down without tools and exposed the old cold water tank being the cause of the sagging. Luckily the joists for the loft extension were not the same as the ceiling joists and supported on their own steels. Probably the only nice surprise about this place.

    But, old tank fully drained (whoever did our unvented system didn't do this, contrary to what they told me) and removed. Knackered ceiling joists being replaced or sistered up with new. Rot removed (from previous roof leaks - now also fixed since we replaced the roof tiles, battens and felt).

    Also, I couldn't be sure, but the labourer they brought in to cart shit about was either drinking a Strongbow Dark Fruit or some kind of energy drink this morning. Neither option would surprise me.

    Also got a few quotes in for bespoke wardrobes. £8k - £11k. ms_com is slightly more open to the PAX idea now.

    And to keep the comment on trend, we have done a mix of self supply and builder supply. Mainly because the electric rad he turned up with looked like a storage heater from a 70's council flat and the toilet he specced may as well have come from a public park loo.

  • Also got a few quotes in for bespoke wardrobes. £8k - £11k.

    What the fuck

    I could literally stop working, buy the tools, train myself, and make them myself, then start working again and time / cost / materials I'd still be in the black compared to that.

    You have to be an absolute baller at the moment to pay anyone to do anything nice at the mo

  • I could literally stop working, buy the tools, train myself, and make them myself, then start working again and time / cost / materials I'd still be in the black compared to that.

    Dunno, that sounds a bit "garage doors" to me

  • I could literally stop working, buy the tools, train myself, and make them myself, then start working again and time / cost / materials I'd still be in the black compared to that.

    Exactly, I could take a couple of months unpaid leave and still not be more out of pocket.

  • Uh oh, you'll upset the joiners with that sort of talk!

    Seriously though, this is why I ended up doing my own ensuite - it took a while but it didn't cost 4 months of my (then) take home pay.

  • So, what you're saying is that I should go out and buy myself a full Festool setup?

    Sounds reasonable to me.

  • No chance could I take a month off work and build something better than paying someone - that’s if I even had all the tools!

  • My pal got a quote of similar money recently too in Glasgow. Wild

  • Depends on just HOW fancy.
    I'm gonna build a 3m wide, 3.2m high, 0.8m deep job in our spare room, then another almost the same in hallway for sports/stuff/life storage. Even at the 'trade' price I get as an odd job guy who is chatty with jewson/buildbase/howdens/local wood yard. It'll be £1500 in sheet material and sawn timber, then finishs, trims, hinges, lighting, air conditioning, heated floors for the shoes etc* is all on top.
    Will probably take me 5 days in my head, but 10 days + in reality.

    *Don't worry, I'm not heating my entire storage area. Just the bit for shoes, putting a DIY shoe drier in there, PVC pipe + small extractor + small heater + exhaust for those wet shoes.

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