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Oh she also said
The Conservatives have been in government for 12 years now and illegal immigration is on the increase, so this is a problem that's been made under their watch.
'Illegal immigration' is a right-wing dog whistle and has no standing in law. No one is 'illegal' when entering the UK. Also, since asylum claim success rates have increased until recently, I'm not sure how 'illegal immigration' could be increasing either.
Basically her statement was complete tosh.
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Doesn't the term illegal immigration largely (90%+ of the time) refer to people who arrived legally but overstay their visas etc as opposed to the dog whistle about asylum seekers that you mentioned.
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You're confusing two things - "illegal immigration" (i.e. not regularised immigration, people coming in who are not legally entitled to) and "illegal immigrant" (used as a derogatory term, implying a lower entitlement to rights etc).
It clearly is illegal to enter the UK through non-permitted means, due to some horribly illiberal legislation passed this year. That's not what I want the law to be, but pretending it isn't doesn't help to get us to a more liberal position.
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Without the context of the questioning your cherry picked responses are worthless. For example my statement "you're a cunt" would be completely different applied to you in this thread vs a previous face to face with Fred west.
If RR is responding validly to a question about Tory proposals to make more immigration rules on top of those they already enacted her statement is perfectly reasonable. She's not stating an opinion on the extant policy but the failure to enforce and attempts to shore up with further legislation.
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Grumpy_Git
I am sorry, but that wasn't the question. Even a perfectly legal and compassionate asylum system (which I am not arguing that we currently have) will find that some people are not entitled to asylum, even on appeal - for example if they're found to have a serious criminal record which precludes them remaining in the country.
What should happen to those people if not deportation?