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Okay perhaps we should focus on what Rachel Reeves said as she is the Shadow Chancellor and this is a thread about the current Labour leadership.
The problem is the government are not deporting people today, even when their claims have failed.
What the government need to do is get a grip of the system, process claims quicker, and ensure people who have not got a right to be here are sent home.As you recognise, we don't currently have a legal and compassionate asylum system. The Nationality and Borders Act 2022, was condemned by Amnesty International, who said
the new laws are highly likely to cause the UK to wrongly refuse asylum to thousands of people despite them having presented a grave risk that if sent back to their home countries they will face torture and other forms of persecution [https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/uk-priti-patels-borders-act-unlawfully-rewriting-what-it-means-be-refugee]
In this context, I don't agree that Labour should be encouraging the home office to be deporting people who's claims they deemed to have failed.
JamesQGM-
Okay perhaps we should focus on what Rachel Reeves said as she is the Shadow Chancellor and this is a thread about the current Labour leadership.
Absolutely. Rachel Reeves said that the government is not deporting people when their claims have failed. You say that's a moral failing, so I'm asking you what SHOULD happen to people when their claims have failed - I'm asking about in a perfect system, but you can answer what you think should happen under this one too if you like.
I'm asking because it seems to me that you're making a very black and white argument that we shouldn't deport anyone under any circumstances and - imo - that strikes me as being very dangerous. I want to know if it's what you actually believe.
ReekBlefs
I am sorry, but that wasn't the question. Even a perfectly legal and compassionate asylum system (which I am not arguing that we currently have) will find that some people are not entitled to asylum, even on appeal - for example if they're found to have a serious criminal record which precludes them remaining in the country.
What should happen to those people if not deportation?