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Thanks I'll probably go for the corsa controls or the fusion 5 all season. It'll come down to availability and price. I can't find the tubeless vredsteins anywhere. I've borrowed some 28's to check clearance so I'll go as fat as I can fit. My rims are 21mm internal 30 mm external so will probably be happier with a wider tyre mounted if i can squeeze them in.
I always used to use cosa clinchers and tubs in summer and open paves in winter and loved them. I didn't think there was a tubeless pave replacement since they stopped doing the black and green clinchers. So a tubeless equivalent of that is what I'm after really. Google says the corsa g+ is the replacement but I've no experience with vittorias since they released the graphine like 5 years ago. I'm right out of touch with the current crop