letter to schools about the Dutch reach

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M_V in reply to @MCamb

Although good practice, its not always possible is it. Especially on narrow / busy roads. Bit of a flippant suggestion and is pushing the responsibility to the victim, in the case of a dooring imo.

~~Nah, I just can't agree with this.~~

~~Telling people they should ride in the door zone, no matter how many provisos that 'should' comes with, is flippant downright dangerous.~~

Unless you literally have, parked cars|door zone|brick wall then it is possible to keep yourself out the zone. Yeah it might put you in the main carriageway with traffic and there of course will be risks associated with that but I cannot envisage a situation where those risks outweigh the risks of riding in the door zone.

~~You can give it all this ideal world scenario chat but just keep out the door zone and you can't get doored.~~

Leaving my original post visible so the thread makes sense but what I wanted to object to was the calling out of anyone who says "Don't ride in the door zone".

I know it can seem like victim blaming but I feel that in the context of discussion among cyclists its an important message that is always worth saying.

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aggi in reply to @M_V

This would pretty much mean you can't filter through stationary traffic though.

Obviously it's best to keep out away from parked car doors but that's only part of the "dooring" problem. There's also those people hopping out of cars in traffic at the lights and the like which pose a danger.

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