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Although good practice, its not always possible is it. Especially on narrow / busy roads. Bit of a flippant suggestion and is pushing the responsibility to the victim, in the case of a dooring imo.
Nah, I just can't agree with this.Telling people they should ride in the door zone, no matter how many provisos that 'should' comes with, is flippant downright dangerous.Unless you literally have, parked cars|door zone|brick wall then it is possible to keep yourself out the zone. Yeah it might put you in the main carriageway with traffic and there of course will be risks associated with that but I cannot envisage a situation where those risks outweigh the risks of riding in the door zone.You can give it all this ideal world scenario chat but just keep out the door zone and you can't get doored.Leaving my original post visible so the thread makes sense but what I wanted to object to was the calling out of anyone who says "Don't ride in the door zone".
I know it can seem like victim blaming but I feel that in the context of discussion among cyclists its an important message that is always worth saying.
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This would pretty much mean you can't filter through stationary traffic though.
Obviously it's best to keep out away from parked car doors but that's only part of the "dooring" problem. There's also those people hopping out of cars in traffic at the lights and the like which pose a danger.
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Who’s telling people they should ride in the door zone? Absolutely not me, I’m well in the stay the f away from parked cars camp and tell anyone who listens to do the same.
What I’m talking about is I regularly have to move into the door zone even if it’s temporarily to allow room for traffic coming in the other direction (for example). Especially when often hostile drivers occupy more space than they need and don’t check their speed at all to accommodate sharing the road with someone -or say me and my family who are more vulnerable.
I slow down, take extra care, and am observant of what’s happening with the parked cars. Then move back to relative safety when I can
The only alternative on many roads is to completely stop every time the road gets slightly congested.
All that care and attention can be completely invalidated by someone saying, well you shouldn’t have been in the door zone in the first place (that’s the flippant response). When no, I shouldn’t have been doored full stop.
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Although good practice, its not always possible is it. Especially on narrow / busy roads. Bit of a flippant suggestion and is pushing the responsibility to the victim, in the case of a dooring imo.