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  • The Bryan Chapman would be a good template, decent mix of scenery in Snowdonia / Cambrian mountains and elevation isn't gratuitous. It's 300 each way, to make up the 400 you could add something on -one suggestion would be to turn at Bronaber towards Welshpool.

    Stunning and super remote, some long gradual climbs. Photo below from when I was there in July.

    Then maybe route South from Welshpool and rejoin the Chapman route.

    Both routes below.

    https://ridewithgps.com/routes/20922029

    https://ridewithgps.com/routes/40778773

  • That looks absolutely ideal - I could head up a little further and start top of Angelsey as well. Thanks very much!

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