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  • I've lived in several flats in London that go down to 10 or 12 dgrees if you don't turn the heating on. This is what a lot of people will be trying to live in. Bleak.

    Our bedroom would regularly be that cold and I'm ok with that. We have a nice duvet though.

    We only heat the other end of the place lounge/office. But even that is mostly heated by the sun and the underfloor contributes a few degrees overnight so it's not baltic starting work.

    As always, we have a choice though. I would fucking hate to be forced outside over winter. A night is a novelty, living out there, fuck that.

  • This.

    These are ace for winter. Got a stock notification out for them already. They manage to keep me warm on a January weeknight watching the football outside at -5 so they'll be more than enough for sitting inside, wfh.

  • This is true. But if I'm actually a bit chilly now with the heating off, what is February going to be like?

  • what is February going to be like?

    Expensive

  • Look good. Out of stock in large though

  • Yeah. Gonna have to suck it up and commute again 😑

  • Move more? I easily get cold working from home but if I go for a lunch run I'm nice and warm for a couple of hours in the afternoon. I should probably add some movement in the morning rather than the fall out of bed and logon thing.

  • Dig out that sweet fixeh from the shed. Remember them?!

  • Yeah I'd like a walking treadmill TBH but it's all bunce I don't really want to spend (and then cost of running it)

  • Stock notification is your friend. They'll have a few restocks of them in the next couple of weeks.

    I've got a few pairs and will buy a few more.

  • The Asos own brand Collusion ones are cheap and comfy too

  • i'm pretty sure that decent insulation keeps homes cool in summer too.

    Yes.

    EDIT: I should probably specify this a bit better. A black painted wall with insulation in it will keep out heat better than a black painted wall without insulation. But then again, you'll probably have windows in that wall, and most of the heat inside will probably be generated by the light that came through those windows, which the insulation then traps.... so yeah. Depends on your ability to let out trapped heat in summer I guess.

  • eBay has loads of cheap warm clothes if you don't mind used.

    Thermal leggings plus loose trousers or Primark plastic fleece onesies or jammies (well, wfh so it's fine no?)

  • How will they deal with this in Scandinavia where heating is free

    The fuck are you on about?

  • Yes, for the first couple of days of a heatwave before the building is saturated. From that point on, it will work harder to retain the heat, meaning all things equal a well insulated property will be hotter, and remain hotter for longer, than a less well insulated property (as per design).

    Of course, a property designed to be both well insulated for winters and able to cope with prolonged periods of 30 degree summer heat (with 40 deg. peaks!) should allow you to have the cake and eat it, the trouble is this isn't what we've been shooting for in the UK - the focus has been reducing heat loss, and to @hoefla 's point, regs covering overheating have only just gone in.

  • Ignore me.

  • but i'm pretty sure that decent insulation keeps homes cool in summer too.

    They do, just not much if it’s a house/flat with massive windows.

  • That's true, I've just been looking at Heat Tech stuff on ebay

  • And actual heat creating things in it, like people and appliances

  • I've been tempted to buy/make removable external shutters to help manage this during the summer.
    Might be a job for this winter to keep me warm

  • Also don't knock cheap thermal lined curtains if you are on a budget.

  • Yes, I've seen one of those nuclear transporting rail carriages (and the video of what happens when you crash a train into it) and they are pretty substantial to fire into space.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY446h4pZdc

  • Be sure to install a vapour barrier especially if London is a damp place.
    We have a heavy plastic vapour barrier over the joists. We rented a machine from Home Depot that blew insulation over top of that, to about 12 inches deep.
    The province and federal governments both had rebates for upgrading insulation, so it really cost nothing and it did reduce our heating bill, more than windows.
    Minor tip- get gaskets for doors and get insulation for your switch plates and outlet covers.These really help and are dirt cheap.

    Anytime we replace a window we blow insulation into the wall. Some people blow insulation into walls by drilling holes into the drywall at the top. This also makes a huge reduction in outside noise.

  • Our bedroom would regularly be that cold and I'm ok with that. We have a nice duvet though.

    Same, but we experienced a sudden bloom of mould that quickly spread around the window and down behind the radiator.
    Ah well, Landlord is now asking for an extra £100 a month so sure we'll see the mould return this year.

  • No need for vapour barrier if it's a well ventilated / draughty loft space, which it looks like it probably is. Just don't seal up the loft.

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