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  • they are sub optimal from a sustainability pov

    I personally think this is a millenial thought flaw that wants everything holier than thou.

    They are no where near ANY car, 30 year old ULEZ exempt banger that has paid of its production carbon debt and fuming NOx, a new and efficient Petrol ICE or hybrid or even an EV. And thats just looking at emissions.

    I dont understand when bike bros diss electric bikes because they use batteries and then buy Patagonia/Rapha/Wahoo every year.

    ANY consumption is bad but if its a consumption that will replace something like a car that just makes cities horrible to live in, maybe we need to find a way to live with it.

    Electric bikes are transformational tools, one trip to any western European city will change your thinking.

    I firmly believe that UK is a lost cause and in a complete downward spiral towards self destruction in every aspect, so there is no point. At least we are not America.

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