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  • Corbyn had the whole of Glastonbury chanting his name, he had hugely influencial celebrities backing him but he still lost because of the right wing media attack.

    But, to retread very old and pointless ground, the problem with that was that the people who go to Glastonbury and who are influenced by the celebrities he had supporting him were never the ones that the party needed to win in order to beat FPTP in swing constituencies. They were going to vote Labour anyway.

    One of Starmer's main strengths is that he's palatable enough to Tory types in those constituencies.

  • You could be right. I'm of the opinion that Corbyn had such an upswell of support from the under 25s that I wouldn't have been surprised if a lot constituencies got a shock when the 2 Labour voting students matched their Tory voting parents. Remember the vast majority of students don't vote but those that do, do it in their home constituency not at the university.

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