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Fuck me...I know its silly to compare yourself to elite athletes but I've just done ~30,000m vertical metres in a month including rest days (mostly walked/hiked rather than run) and I'm in pieces. Imagine doing 36k in six days!

Edit: And I misread...thats 36k up. So let me correct myself. I've just done about ~18km of ascent in 30 days including rest days and I'm in pieces. Imagine doing 36k in 6 days!

Spine race I did 13k over 5 days... Rather puts it into perspective!

It's very impressive what a person can achieve when they set their mind on it.

Sure. There's clearly genetics involved but ultimately these superhuman feats are basically mostly incredible determination, single mindedness and tolerance of discomfort.

Was chatting about this with a mountain guide (with a 38BPM RHR) last week. He reckoned genetics are the deal breaker but most of it is a person's willingness to suffer for an objective.

In his case he personally believes his insane endurance capabilities are because when his school friends were playing Nintendo, his Grandad was making him carry the deer he shot down from the mountains.

Why do you mention his resting heart rate?

I intended to indicate that he is an elite mountain athlete in his own right to highlight the fact that his opinion might be carry more weight than a flabby lowland mouth breather such as myself.

36k of vert in 6 days is insane. I've done 55k of vert so far this year and it's felt like a lot and has included training for and completing a sky race.

I had a great day running the Squamish 50k over here in BC on Sunday. It's a brilliant trail run with a little over 2100m vert in the route. I finished 10th male, in 6hrs 5 mins which I'm really chuffed with.

But on the point of some people being built different, I was passed around halfway by the person that had won the 50miler the day before (there's a 50miler on the Saturday and 50k on the Sunday, and really mad people do both). It's just astonishing to me that someone that had run 50 miles the day before could run 50k over 15 minutes quicker than me!

Is it not the case that a lot of elite athletes have a low rhr but it's not necessarily an indicator of it? I remember getting surgery as a teenager, having a nurse comment that I must do a load of sport because of my rhr when really the most I did was picking up the gamecube controller

Sure, but I think you're reading into my clumsy language a bit too much.

Most people with RHRs below 40 are pretty fit. Especially if they're an elite mountaineer for their day job.

I had a similar experience pre surgery when I was 16. Nurse told me I had a low pulse at about 55. (Was fairly sporty though).

Fair enough! I was just curious if there's some aspect of it I hadn't thought about before

In a track running race what part of the body crosses the finish line when the clock is stopped? So in a photo finish how is who’s in front determined?

Torso

So often ends up as shoulders when people are lunging for the line

Hardrock 100 - looks a beautiful part of the world
https://youtu.be/1MVA8OwtDes

I've a half marathon this weekend (halfway through marathon training) Was hoping to get a race but can't make it happen so it's gonna be a TT.

There’s a race at dorney lake that I’m doing, not the greatest of courses, but a race nonetheless…

I was hoping to do the Antrim coast half which would have been perfect but have family commitments later that day (and I'm a few hours drive from antrim)

Ah so not too close to dorney lake then!

Last hard run done ahead of the weekend, 14k supposedly at 4:15 pace, went a bit hard in the first few kms so was able to back off a bit from 10k, still avg 4:07 for the run, just hope 2 easy days is enough for some fresh-ish legs by Sunday!

...(road) running in the rain, how does it work?

I mean obviously people wear a water resistant / waterproof jacket, and I gathered that some just wear shorts and some wear pants (that do lead a lot of water right down to your socks) - but do road / city runners just wear their normal running shoes and deal with it when they're getting soaked?

There's a couple of water resistant / Gore-Tex shoes I see, but almost all of them are "trail" ones, or some kind of flatter / harder / more "supported" road models - are there really no well cushioned / soft / high stack neutral running shoes that are also suitable for running in the rain?

I have a pair of the pegasus gortex trail that I use on the trail and on the roads I find them good. Kept my feet warm and dry last winter.
https://www.nike.com/gb/t/pegasus-trail-3-trail-running-shoes-sgKPTr/DA8697-400?nikegos=true&cp=euns_AD_PI_F3D_CMP_UK_BAU_XCT_SHOP_REV_M_DA8697-400&cp=47658763634_search_%7c%7c10628703748%7c110516033888%7c%7cm%7cEN%7ccssproducts%7c453317343305_GEOZ&ds_rl=1252249&gclid=CjwKCAjw3qGYBhBSEiwAcnTRLv_3E9fFgXAY4Zf8zy5nnbH6CNCg1r-0pJOqmOB8_vYeDweazyHEgxoCMzIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I just wear my normal shoes and I have a shoe dryer machine thing to dry them out with when I get home.

A machine that drys shoes...I need to see this.
The days of scrunched up newspaper may be over

I just use a hairdryer and my peg gtx trails did keep the worst of yesterdays rain out. Dry trail shoes like the pegasus are fine on the road anything designed for mud feels horrible on all hard running surfaces IME.

This sort of thing: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Electric-Function-Warmer-Drying-Gloves/dp/B09NVRQC56/ref=sr_1_5?crid=HTQK8DHXKH6P&

Cool! warm shoes and sox for winter mornings