Locks that work

Hilariously I have tidied away all my locks to prevent child no.1 damaging themselves and have absolutely no idea where they are.

Is Ongaurd Brute still the best budget option? On Amazon there seem to be two sorts, a slightly more expensive solid gold one and a standard one. Are they the same?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Guard-Brute-STD-8001-Keyed-Shackle/dp/B00AW7P7JK/ref=psdc_548194031_t1_B01A6ZRKNI

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Onguard-Brute-Standard-8001-U-Lock/dp/B01A6ZRKNI/ref=psdc_548194031_t1_B00AW7P7JK

As a follow up question are there any good value lighter locks? I'd be locking it up mainly while getting a takeaway, a couple of corner shop bits etc. outside London. Need to order some other stuff from PX so was mainly looking at this 16mm JOBSWORTH BE REET BMF U LOCK 180MM X 320MM. Is it just a waste of £7?

I feel like I already know what people will say, but baring in mind somewhere I have a Fag, an Abus Granite, and the OG Brute floating around somewhere, I'm loathed to get another beefy heavy lock when I'm no longer leaving the bike locked up outside work/pubs/etc in London.

Cheers.

Onguard Pitbull Mini or Kryptonite Evo Mini would be my choices. (Obviously neither are locks that "work")

Cheers.

So fucking frustrating. I just wanted to go to pick up something from Halfords and then swing by a supermarket. Instead I spent the best part of an hour searching. Luckily I've got a tiny-weeny Fag for a chain that I could use to lock the wheel to stop my bike being rolled/ridden away while I was in Halfords. But obvs couldn't go to the supermarket.

Think I'm going to get that cheapo PX/Jobsworth one anyway as I've got to pay for P&P and haven't seen anything else as cheap. That way I can always have it as a spare 2nd lock.

I emailed onguard to find out the weights of all their locks that are currently diamond rated sold-secure. They haven’t got them listed anywhere on their website!!!

I know that sold-secure isn’t a true sign of a locks potential security but I thought others might find it helpful when shopping around.

Brute LS #8000, 5.07 lbs
Brute STD #8001, 4.67 lbs
Pitbull LS #8002, 4.18 lbs
Pitbull STD #8003, 3.97 lbs
Pitbull Mini #8006, 3.13 lbs
Pitbull Medium #8006M, 3.32 lbs
Pitbull Mini DT #8008 3.83 lbs.

Bumping this thread.
After recommendations of the latest strongest locks available.
Weight irrelevant as I will leave it at work.
Price irrelevant within reason.
This will be on a bike left outside in daylight hours in a bit of a sketchy area. Not ideal obviously, but I can't bring it in. This lock will need to be resilient to angle grinders. I know with enough time one can cut through any lock, I just want this not to be worth the effort:

This will be a new super primary lock my other two used as secondary/tertiary.

Any motorbike chain locks worth a look?

Thanks for any pointers/help

For a d-lock Hiplock D1000 has just finished its Kickstarter run but should be available to buy from the soon. It’s effectively anti-battery angle grinder. There’s a Bennetts review on you tube about it.

For a chain, pragmasis have a good selection and are highly regarded, consider a bundle with their excellent round lock. https://securityforbikes.com/Security-Chains-Products-Selector.php

What @Ramsaye said. Pragmasis are great. Got a couple myself. They’ve resisted angle grinders already. They’re really well regarded in the motorcycle world.

I’m really curious about the hiplock one as well.

Great thank you both!

I'm resigning myself to public transport for a week (bleurgh!!) while I weigh up options.
I absolutely do not want to lose my bike both out of financial necessity and difficulty building an exact replacement, so I'm thinking maybe buying a generic beater.
That does defeat the point in owning my primary bike in the first place though (built up to lug my equipment around London each day, but with ride characteristics I like).
Damn bike thieves!!!

@Chak @Ramsaye wow that D1000 is insane!

If that comes in at sub 200quid I'll be really interested.

edit>>> I see they are anticipating £250.

I've been using a mini fahg as my primary lock for years. Annoyingly it won't go round the 35c tyres and guards of my current lock up bike. Any suggestions for something with a similar level of security but slightly bigger? Is there anything in between the mini fahg and the M18 in terms of size?

I've been wanting this for the cargo bike as well, a mini NY with a few cm more length would be great.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a thru-axle security skewer? For an MTB front wheel.

Anyone got a recommendation for a lock to take touring. Something not too bulky or heavy. It's mainly for when I pop into shops. Combination so I won't have a key to lose.
I've just seen the Ottolock which looks like a good option.

Bit of a dredge! Any suggestions for a decent length chain lock? Needs to be able to lock 5 bikes together. Doesn't need to be totally bombproof, it's more of a deterrent against opportunists than anything. It'll be carried using an Urban Arrow so weight isn't really an issue as long as it's not obscenely heavy.

Pragmasis is the go to

I have a short shackle D-lock and a cable combo lock that go with me. Depends where you're going and where you'll be locking up.

I've got a Pragmasis myself but probably overkill/ too spenny for this application!

In which case, why not just a cable with eyes?

Possibly a good option. I feel like a chain is probably more of a visual deterrent though? Who's to say.

A chain is harder to cut through. You can snip through even quite a substantial cable with nothing more than a pair of side cutters.

@ltc had said that this was to protect against opportunists, so a decent D lock and a (much less decent) cable would do that. Obvs it would need to be a chunky chain to help against anything meaningful, and even then a battery grinder could see it off pretty quickly...

We're using a cable for now but I feel like a chunky looking chain is possibly more of a visual deterrent? Might be talking bollocks though! Obviously there's not much you can do to stop a determined thief but the use case is basically to stop someone just picking a bike up and walking off with it. Maybe a chain is overkill for that, I'll have a think.

It's all down the value of what you're locking and the hassle of carrying/applying the locks. If it's for overnight on the street then a mahoosive chain is definitely the route. If it's just while you pop into the shops/stop at a pub then a few D-locks and some cable(s) may be enough.

Remember that when you use a chain you want to try and keep it off the floor as it's much easier to work on like that.

We deliver bikes using an Urban Arrow, up to 5 at a time, 9 with a trailer. They don't get left alone very often and if they are it's only for a few minutes at a time. Surprisingly, despite the bikes on the front stupidly being unlocked until recently, we've only had 1 go missing ever. Basically just after something to lock the bikes together to stop a scrote thinking about walking off with one! A crappy cable would probably serve that purpose but if you're riding a 200kg+ bike, a few extra kilos for a decent chain isn't going to matter really.

I spent a couple nights in Bristol this weekend and knew there wasn't much bike parking options where I stayed so took both a fahg and evolution. Locked the fahg to a lampost in a side road while I was put and about, and came back in the evening to a smashed fahg. Was still on the lampost as it couldn't be twisted off. Could still use it tho, with the other as well of course. Pretty impressive that it still provided some security even when broken. Also very confusing why someone would put that amount of energy into breaking a lock.

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