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  • Yeah, sorry you have some gripes but the core function of them is just so good. Completely transforms riding for me. So much more comfortable / safe for my ears.

  • prefer the look of the XT

    +1

    I keep a small packable pair of gortex trousers with me in case of rain. I figure that in the rain you're getting wet somehow, so it's mainly about providing a protective layer to stop you getting properly wet then cold.

    Also not wearing them all the time prevents wear in the seat and crotch. Which imo will reduce the waterproofness of almost everything. Thus keeping them waterproof for longer.

    Obvs it totally depends on your use.

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