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I think you misunderstood. 5pm is the time from when you start claiming TOIL. :-D
It does depend on the job and the headcount, I agree that in small organisations you’d muck in more. You’d also probably expect to see a more generous share of any profits…
The people in my example, doing their work in three days… they’re still clocking 35hrs.
Ben689908-
doing their work in three days… clocking 35hrs
I know a couple of people on these sorts of arrangements. For example, in the civil service you can choose to cram 5 days' hours into 4 and take an extra day off a week.
Even though the maths makes sense, somehow four 10 hour days doesn't feel of the same value to the team as five 8 hour ones. Particularly WFH, where the extra 2 hours Mon-Thu can be spent walking the dog in the morning or cooking dinner in the evening.
NickCJ
No. I meant 3pm. 12noon at Xmas.
It also depends which side you're coming from doesn't it?
If some people can do the job in 3 days an others in +5 days, then it suggests that their managers aren't doing their job.
I think a lot of your view is shaped by where you've worked. If you've been in large organisations then ime people are often a lot more, "that's not my job", "I'm not working for free". Whereas if you're in a small business where you can literally see all of the work distribution and you don't have the head count for dedicated roles for every task you muck in a bit more.
Overall though it's about openness and consistency. I the job I mentioned before it always grated when the boss made a dig at time keeping or attendance. We'd often get paid late and the nature of the work was that you'd routinely sit on your hands for most of the day/week and then have to work flat out once whatever dependency you were waiting on came through.