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they never sit flat on the frame unless you do the bolts up really tight
Interesting, thats not been my experience with bolts done up to usual torque.
@cmc_0123 Yeah £100 for two on ebay is probably the best option, I don't see them come up second hand that often. I think I paid £80 for two used ones.
They were originally made by king as a colab with wolf tooth.
What makes them better? Just the extra mounting points?