I was asking in regards to buying new. Regardless I get your point. Have to point out that surly makes some pretty good stuff.
for example; why does this warrant £201 more than this? esp given the Giant comes with racks and would be lighter.
every QBP product is overpriced as the deskwankers want to search for that 'cool' edge and wont want to be seen on a Giant/Trek/Merida/Specialized
When I bought my Ogre I actually thought Surly were a smaller brand than the bigger names, crazy how QBP market their brands to appear that way.
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I love my LHT. It is 12 years old & only cost me £500. Does that make me a deskwanker? I’ll clearly have to burn it.
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I was asking in regards to buying new. Regardless I get your point.
Have to point out that surly makes some pretty good stuff.