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PickyAF in reply to @exteroceptive

For going downhill safely while gravel riding on rough terrain you need a good, centered position with proper reach to the brake levers while on the drops. Compromising this looking for a more upright position in the hoods is wrong I think, maybe another properly fitting frame is the solution for this.

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Netakure in reply to @PickyAF

There's a big line to cross for the average, non road cycling middle aged person, and it's bars lower than saddle. That's why so many of the gravel wagons have hoods and bars constantly uphill.

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PickyAF in reply to @Netakure

I know, I become one of them recently. Frames too Big and saddles too high are part of the problem also

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