Pro-cycling thread

Iserbyt used to go out with Puck Mooney so by marrying him you are in effect getting with her and thus completing life.
Have to feel fuck wout or MVDP would be an exhausting, red bull by the bed type of experience that my 40 year old body just can’t handle

Don’t think he’s accepted yet that no one will ride with him, because he’s too strong.

I remember maybe Sagan saying in an interview that he had accepted that he would never be let into a breakaway and if he did, no one would help him get to the line.

Rouleur with some choice quotes

https://www.rouleur.cc/blogs/the-rouleur-journal/it-s-not-normal-what-she-did-what-does-van-vleuten-s-performance-at-the-tour-de-france-femmes-mean-for-women-s-cycling

So Van Vleuten is ruining it for everyone by being too good. Her excuse is "I’m 39 years old so for me it’s possible to train for so many hours...Every year you can do 5-10% more hours." Is that true?

Probably. Here's an article from 2 years ago
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/van-vleuten-reveals-massive-year-end-training-tally/
She would join the Michelton-Scott men's team on their training camps which you could see in some of their vlogs/YouTube series and there's less info but it seems she also joined some at Movistar
https://www.velonews.com/news/road/annemiek-van-vleuten-starts-new-chapter-at-team-movistar-training-camp/

The annual 5-10% increase....is that for all women? What about men?

She has a reputation for being able to train harder than her teammates, and as @Sumo highlighted, regularly trains with men's side of the team.

Women's racing tends to avoid the longer, harder climbs as the disparities between full time, well funded pros like Van Vleuten, and part-time, barely paid a living wage 'pros' in some of the smaller teams is stark.

I'm not sure let me ask all the women and all the men.

I've also read some articles (not just cycling) that suggesting that women reach endurance peak later.

I mean Van Vleuten has previously won the Giro Donne by approx. 4 minutes from her nearest competitors twice so not unheard of. Also can't see anyone in the women's peloton beating her up the Super Planche today.

regularly trains with men's side of the team.

Lol sorry. It's not like they are any good

I think Van Vleuten was implying in her interview, quoted in the Rouleur piece, that it applied to other women

Awful crash at Commonwealth Games in scratch race qual, Matt Walls went over the barriers into the crowd

"alert and talking" reportedly. One spectator wheelchaired out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/commonwealth-games/62369932

Ok I was being facetious before but let's make it simple. She was talking in the 2nd person. If you say something like "I've been training for a lot of years and every year you get a bit better", the "you" is referring to yourself. In her statement there may have been implications that the same process can work for other people but I'm pretty sure she wasn't saying "every pro cyclist male and female can do 5-10% more hours training hours every year" because that's a very broad statement.

Pretty sure she was referring to the others in the TdFF. And Demi Vollering thought so too. Or hoped so. Obvs 10% is double 5%, so I would think she used that big margin to include other riders, not just her. She wouldn't use that margin to describe just herself, because she probably knows a very precise number for her own annual increase.

Isn't there any general info about this kind of thing? Any training experts here who could chip in?

What language was she giving the interview in? If English, not her first language, and if not, wouldn’t read too much into translation differences.

Blimey. All a bit much for the moto at the end there.

I don't know. In this clip she says in English that the others will be able to train as much as her when they're older https://www.eurosport.co.uk/cycling/tour-de-france-femmes/2022/annemiek-van-vleuten-made-her-move-after-six-days-waiting-and-surviving-at-tour-de-france-femmes_vid1724422/video.shtml

In this clip Adam Blythe says he can't understand why she's so much better than the rest. But Dani Christmas says women athletes' endurance gets better as they get older https://www.eurosport.co.uk/cycling/tour-de-france-femmes/2022/theyd-break-annemiek-van-vleuten-training-regime-beyond-rest-of-peloton_vid1724400/video.shtml

movistar finally won the tour!

Looking at strava AVV has ridden just a touch under 20,000km vs Vollering at 14,000 which is a pretty big difference. Although I'm unsure if Vollering rode the Giro Donne.

Giro Tour double at that!

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Trek beaten by Cervelo. I presume user amey is putting in a complaint in writing to the UCI

I am looking at R5 tbh